Of Course it Did ...

Torqued the Whole Thing, a FULL Nanometre ...

I'm gonna go get my Tin-Foil Hat, now!

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Sometimes one doesn't have to go as far (out) as GLP to witness similar situations and reactions. Sometimes they're very close to home.

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Most users ever online was 427 on Fri Dec 31, 2004 1:31 am [PST]

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I just tried going in the front door to godlike.com and got refused. I also tried to jump in through an old Toseek post in Px forum and got the same thing. How can you become an esteemed member of an exclusive club if they don't even let you knock on the door? It's their loss, not mine. (not that I would intentionally subject myself to that sort of punishment in the first place)

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It definitely seems like a strange plan for what is apparently now a commercial venture.

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Just a side note to those wondering about their passwords on chat forums. Having set up a number of chat rooms for clients, passwords may or may not be available to the normal administrator depending on how the chat program was designed. I believe phpBB uses a MySQL data base to store information and the passwords are encrypted. The password function in MySQL has the ability to be either set up as text delimited or encrypted, depending on the programmer’s whim. Most all chat programs I’ve seen are encrypted, but I’ve ran across a couple low level hacked to together ones where the passwords are visible. Going a bit further, if the admin has superadmin or root privileges and knows his/her way around a MySQL or SQL database they might still be able to extract an encrypted password. So, as other people have mentioned, never ever use a password similar to what you use for your financial transactions.

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For phpBB at least, the passwords are stored in the database as an MD5 Hash, not encrypted.

Basically, when you create your password the first time it is MD5 hashed and the result is stored in the database. When you log in again, your password is MD5 hashed and the result is compared. If equal, you're in.

Using this method, phpBB and the database never actually have to know what your password is. Just the result of your password and the MD5 hash. And since it is a hash and not an encryption, it is one way only. Of course there is always the "brute force" attack, but just having your hashed password will not give someome the ability to easily determine your original password.

YMMV

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Interesting thing just happened to me that's somewhat related to this thread, so...

Somehow, I managed to get the MySearch bar installed again. This was a surprise to me, since I haven't used IE in months until today. Curious to figure out what I did to get it, I went to its home page, which of course spawned countless popup windows.

Of course, MySearch is a lop.com product. Even knowing this, I was completely caught off guard when one of these popups turned out to be the GLP forum. I'm suddenly terribly concerned for the mental health of the thousands upon thousands of people who are plagued by lop.com software. :-?

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No. Candy is mistaken. Ikyoto could do a dump of everything and muddle through garbage and possibly see something, but he cannot go in and look at people's PMs and he wouldn't if he could.

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Most users ever online was 798 on Fri Feb 18, 2005 12:18 pm [EST]

What's with all the inconsistency? Perhaps a bug in phpBB?

EDIT: btw, what happened on Feb 18th to be of such significance?

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Check the time stamp on that post, dvb.

We were farked.

Oh gee, I had no idea how old this thread was. Thought it was just posted today.

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Here's how it works:

You send a PM to someone. It gets a LONG line of code generated by the php script to allow only the receiver to see it.

They log in and read their message.

For me to read them I would have to go through EVERY message and TRY to understand who is talking to who... Why becasue the NAMES of who sends them and who gets them are NOT recorded. The best way to explain it is taking a set of encyclopedias and scrabling every volume. THNE at random points put in sentences that DO make secne but are compteley out of order.

THAT is what I'd have to go through to read the PM's. It would take more time that trying to decipher compiled code written in another language. It CAN be done but the amount of work it would take would be a full time job.

Before insinuating I'm not trustworthy why not stop and think first? I don't let people say crap about BABB without reminding them that it's Phil's site and he can run it the way he pleases.

Candy, you stopped posting at FWIS becasue I don't want you hijacking threads and trying to be the center of attention there. Fine - your choice. But tryig to make me look unethical is soemthing I won't stand for. I haven't posted here for MONTHS and haven't had a need to, but this really crosses the line.

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And here is where the other stuff is.

Just to clear up my statement; I wasn't saying that I suspected any Webmaster in particular or any site in particular. My concern was voiced in a general manner but now I see that I was concerned over nothing.

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Posted on FWIS:

Ok- First yes I do have a forum(www.scotsons-shack.com/Forum.htm) and I was woundering how people could look at PM's. I have no intension of reading PM's, and I never asked Iky for instuctions, and I never tried either. I was just woundering how the board(phpbb) worked- I never had any real intension of looking at people's privite information. I dunno if it's possible- but I don't care much. I'm sorry if it came across that I was tring to view PM's.

I was actully really worried about passwords as I use the same one for eveything(I easly forget passwords- got me into alot of trouble with paypal recently(I forgot and acedently locked the account) and somone told me it's easy to find out so I started changing them. I now have about 6 different ones. I found out a bit later that passwords are impossible to unencript. So now I've started keeping the same one.

I have the same view as the BA and Iky on the matter and that is that I wouldnever try to view personal information.

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