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I don't know if there has already been such a thread, but the idea seems cool:

Has anything high unusual, be it psychological, "paranormal", inexplicable happened to you?


I'll start: I had in 2001-2002 five experiences of sleep paralysis - OK, that's not paranormal or inexplicable, but its WEIRD AS HELL.

I "wake up" - that is, open my eyes and become fully conscious - but I can't move my body. There's more: one time, I guess the second, I sensed a presence, it was a "bird", the room was dark and the suggestion was made my a carton box near the ceiling that flipped with the wind and sounded like a bird's wing during flight. I coud actually "see" a shadow of a bird, but I coundt move my head so I couldnt actually follow "it". I thought it was a raven.

The last time it lasted longer - maybe half an hour - and it was the first time I was afraid instead of amused by it, since I thought - Gee, it's taking longer, what if I never snap out of it?". This time I tryed so hard to move, that I feld my legs and then my whole body falling out of bed and then crawling painstakingly to the corridor outside my bedroom - but then I realized I had not moved a centimeter and I was still lying in bed

It was very common for me to try and move arm or leg so hard that I thought for a while I had done it - but then SNAP, nothing moved, not even my head, nothing. But this last time I was sure I was crawling on the flour - though with EXTREME difficulty - but it was all fake also.

In all of the occasions, it was after an afternoon nap, dusk, little lighting in the room.

Sleep paralysis is the opposite of sleepwalking: in the latter, your bady awakes but your mind dreams, in the former, you mind awakes and your body doesnt - it may even dream it's moving!!!!
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I once had something similar happen to me, though I was still in REM sleep.

I dreamed that I woke up, got out of bed, and walked into the kitchen.

Following that, I dreamed that something woke me up, and I got out of bed.

Following that, I was really woken up by the clatter of a metal bowl hitting something and a surprised yelp. (IIRC, my dad had accidently knocked the bowl off the kitchen counter.)

Interesting bit: in both "layers" of the dream, there was a white T-shirt folded on top of my dresser. That T-shirt was indeed there in reality. Obviously, part of my mind "recorded" it being there the night before, though I had not given the shirts presence much thought.

(Interesting isn't it, how even the most surreal of dreams can include genuine details from your memory?)
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Different tack but I've twice had 'out of body' experiences. First time it was weird but didn't feel odd. I was sitting an exam and sort of floated around behind myself and looked over my shoulder while the invigilator was on the other side of me. Didn't seem to do me any harm and I got a credit!
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ok, I'll bite.

A few years ago I had a near-death experience in Spain and had that whole "white light" thing happen to me. Fortunately I was revived (or else I'm posting from the Great Beyond)
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de ja vu

You experience it and remamber in and recall the memery all at the same time... odd
I get it often
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de ja vu

You experience it and remamber in and recall the memery all at the same time... odd
I get it often
Didnt I read a message exactly like this another time???
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You experience it and remamber in and recall the memery all at the same time... odd
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Whoah. Deja vu.

(Nice double-post, Mickal. :P )
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Well people don't normally like to admit this sort of stuff ... but what the heck ...

One night I was awakened by a sudden physical contact. I was instantly wide awake and hovering over me was an apparition of a woman - from the waist up. She had long brown hair and a short sleeve shirt. There was nothing "menacing" about her - just a sense that she was passing through. She hovered for about 30 seconds gradually elevating away and then faded through the wall.

I've never seen such a thing before or since then. Its not anything that I could ever (or even care to) "prove", but I know how I was awakened, know that I was in fact awake, and know what I saw.
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Were you able to move while you were awake? (If you weren't, the explanation's kind of obvious.)
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Well people don't normally like to admit this sort of stuff ... but what the heck ...

One night I was awakened by a sudden physical contact. I was instantly wide awake and hovering over me was an apparition of a woman - from the waist up. She had long brown hair and a short sleeve shirt. There was nothing "menacing" about her - just a sense that she was passing through. She hovered for about 30 seconds gradually elevating away and then faded through the wall.

I've never seen such a thing before or since then. Its not anything that I could ever (or even care to) "prove", but I know how I was awakened, know that I was in fact awake, and know what I saw.
Don't feel bad, I saw a UFO. Several other people saw it as well. So, if it was an hallucination it was of the group variety. I suspect that there's some reasonable explanation for it but haven't come up with one that fits what I observed. I know I can't "prove" what I saw and no longer care to analyze the experience (and no, I don't believe in "aliens" per say).
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I've seen something in the sky that confused the hell out of me. I was looking out the window of the car as we drove down a country road, a good 6 or 7 years ago, and when I looked up I could see what looked like a sphere of cloud moving just on the underside of the cloud cover... It was travelling in a single direction, and it didn't so much duck out and then go back into the cloud as it did move for a bit, then kind of disappear, as though it had been discretely absorbed by the cloud above, then reappear, travelling in the same direction. It was small, barely noticable, and it's purely by chance that I saw it at all.
Of course, I still doubt what I saw... I may have just been daydreaming, or actually asleep maybe. But the doubt didn't come untill the next day, because when I saw it, I was very sure I was seeing something. It could be a meteorological effect I've never heard of before.
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Well people don't normally like to admit this sort of stuff ... but what the heck ...

One night I was awakened by a sudden physical contact. I was instantly wide awake and hovering over me was an apparition of a woman - from the waist up. She had long brown hair and a short sleeve shirt. There was nothing "menacing" about her - just a sense that she was passing through. She hovered for about 30 seconds gradually elevating away and then faded through the wall.

I've never seen such a thing before or since then. Its not anything that I could ever (or even care to) "prove", but I know how I was awakened, know that I was in fact awake, and know what I saw.
Don't feel bad, I saw a UFO. Several other people saw it as well. So, if it was an hallucination it was of the group variety. I suspect that there's some reasonable explanation for it but haven't come up with one that fits what I observed. I know I can't "prove" what I saw and no longer care to analyze the experience (and no, I don't believe in "aliens" per say).
Yeah, I haven't spent any time analyzing the situation either. I sized it all up as it was happening. It wasn't a hallucination - and that leaves little more to be said about it.
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Well people don't normally like to admit this sort of stuff ... but what the heck ...

One night I was awakened by a sudden physical contact. I was instantly wide awake and hovering over me was an apparition of a woman - from the waist up. She had long brown hair and a short sleeve shirt. There was nothing "menacing" about her - just a sense that she was passing through. She hovered for about 30 seconds gradually elevating away and then faded through the wall.

I've never seen such a thing before or since then. Its not anything that I could ever (or even care to) "prove", but I know how I was awakened, know that I was in fact awake, and know what I saw.

This "apparition hovering over", with sexual (I'm assuming youre a man) overtones is known as succubus, and seems to be quite common. Succubus is a medieval european name for that phenomenon, many "alien" apparitions share features with succubus. There's also incubus, which is more a female thing, when a woman (or a man) sees someone coverng her/him, with sexual significance. Actually the Italian word for nightmare is incubo...

Once I had a semi-succubus - cause I was almost asleep, and a dream transformed into harelip (eerk! :-& ) woman going over me...
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I had a dream where the Lone Gunmen (you know those three geeks from X-Files) stole an intelligent chimp from a secret research station. A couple of weeks later an episode of Lone Gunmen were aired in which they really stole an intelligent chimp from a secret research station. I had never seen the episode before or even heard anything of it. Of course the details where nothing alike in the dream and the episode: in the dream it happened in a Lone Gunmen movie (that of course doesn't exist) and the station was in Russia. And no, it wasn't a déja vu, I remember details of the dream and I told a friend of mine about the weird dream before the episode was aired. But that's not a paranormal incident, just weird one. Most probably just a big coincidence.
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In the run up to the end of 2004, which I maintain was chaotic and for some reason the laws of probability seemed to have got skewed, I kept thinking that something big was coming

One more nasty piece of chaos




Then the Tsunami hit



It is not that I am predicting the future, that is impossible, but I felt last year that I was reading History as it unfolded - Or maybe I was utterly obsessed by 2004 appearing to be in chaotic state

Occam's rasor indicates I am cracking up, although Harvey here disagrees :wink:
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Phenomena that hasn't been explained by science fully:

These aren't in any specific order or age time frame.

1. Ghost- I've seen one, most definitley, a few times, same one. Happened
indoors late at night everytime I saw it. Looked like a white smokey
shape that moved humanoid like, it always turned to look at me too.
Creepy. (13 yrs.)

2. Apparition- Yes, one of these too. It was round' noon I was at work at a
customers home where the sunlight through the window made like, what
heat does to the air when you see it edge on, made a human like shape,
and I had a "feeling" of something yet to be decribed. My step father
died from cancer that day around this time, I didn't know until later.
(19 yrs.)

3. Something that touches you thats isn't there- Had this a few times, it
actually grabbed me, felt like what a horseshoe crab looks like, about
as big as my hand spread open. Pretty freaky. (16-18 yrs.)

4. Something in the sky "far away"- Looked like what a Super Nova would
look like if it happened in the span of about 60 seconds, happened
round' 2:00am. (Later on, I read about Iridium flares but never seen
one to compare the two.) (30 yrs.) :-?

5. Thing in the sky "within the atmostphere"- One night the stars kept
blinking on and off in a kind of pattern of the famous triangle shape
but there were no lights and no sound, it looked "very" ominous. Made
my hairs stand on end. What ever it was seemed real close, 5000 ft.'ish
and really, really BIG, and stealthy. Moved real slow to the north. This
was spring time.(A couple nights later I saw the culprits because they
flew closer to the ground where the street lights shined on them. They
were a flock of birds flying north, in thier triangle way.) (30 yrs.) #-o

6. Dreams- I could write a book on this, here's one. Outta body, had a
dream that I flew to a place, to a house, hid in the attic saw a woman
she was alone. I never had seen this house or the woman. But, later on
and some random events, I drove past the "house" in another state and
the "woman" was getting her mail, I slowed down, hairs on end. Then
kept on going. (20 yrs.) 8-[

Theres some other stuff but can't remember the rest.
Like "missing objects" found where they shoud never be. :x

I believe there's things that science can't explain rationally. But, I try to stay pretty skeptical on weired stuff.
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Something happened to me recently that I still don't believe and can't trust really happened. It certainly won't happen again in my lifetime.

I've been working in publishing for 16 years, and recently I had a customer (author) who

1. was well prepared,
2. knew what he was talking about,
3. wasn't in a huge artificial rush.



It must have been an apparition.
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Something happened to me recently that I still don't believe and can't trust really happened. It certainly won't happen again in my lifetime.

I've been working in publishing for 16 years, and recently I had a customer (author) who

1. was well prepared,
2. knew what he was talking about,
3. wasn't in a huge artificial rush.



It must have been an apparition.

I guess there is a limit to scientific reason and understanding after all!!! Not even the Mythbusters, Scooby, Molder and Scully combined could crack that one!
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Phenomena that hasn't been explained by science fully:

These aren't in any specific order or age time frame.

1. Ghost- I've seen one, most definitley, a few times, same one. Happened
indoors late at night everytime I saw it. Looked like a white smokey
shape that moved humanoid like, it always turned to look at me too.
Creepy. (13 yrs.)

2. Apparition- Yes, one of these too. It was round' noon I was at work at a
customers home where the sunlight through the window made like, what
heat does to the air when you see it edge on, made a human like shape,
and I had a "feeling" of something yet to be decribed. My step father
died from cancer that day aroung this time. (19 yrs.)

3. Something that touches you thats isn't there- Had this a few times, it
actually grabbed me, felt like what a horseshoe crab looks like.
Pretty freaky. (16-18 yrs.)

4. Something in the sky "far away"- Looked like what a Super Nova would
look like if it happened in the span of about 60 seconds, happened
round' 2:00am. (Later on, I read about Iridium flares but never seen
one to compare the two.) (30 yrs.) :-?

5. Thing in the sky "within the atmostphere"- One night the stars kept
blinking on and off in a kind of pattern of the famous triangle shape
but there were no lights and no sound, it looked "very" ominous. Made
my hairs stand on end. What ever it was seemed real close, 5000 ft.'ish
and really, really BIG, and stealthy. Moved real slow to the north. This
was spring time.(A couple nights later I saw the culprits because they
flew closer to the ground where the street lights shined on them. They
were a flock of birds flying north, in thier triangle way.) (30 yrs.) #-o

6. Dreams- I could write a book on this, here's one. Outta body, had a
dream that I flew to a place, to a house, hid in the attic saw a woman
she was alone. I never had seen this house or the woman. But, later on
and some random events, I drove past the "house" in another state and
the "woman" was getting her mail, I slowed down, hairs on end. Then
kept on going. (20 yrs.) 8-[

Theres some other stuff but can't remember the rest.
Like "missing objects" found where they shoud never be. :x

I believe there's things that science can't explain rationally. But, I try to stay pretty skeptical on weired stuff.


Maybe those apparitions and "touch" feelings are in the mind only. Our mind is addicted to finding patterns especially human faces, gestures, speech. Sometimes we may recognize them where they really aren't. That's not to say that real "apparitions", ghosts, etc. cannot ALSO exist independently, but I believe in many cases its cognitive overinterpretation (oh, that sounded fancy)
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Were you able to move while you were awake? (If you weren't, the explanation's kind of obvious.)
Yes, I was able to move.
Can someone explain this to me in detail? I'm not sure I completely understand. :P
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Maybe those apparitions and "touch" feelings are in the mind only. Our mind is addicted to finding patterns especially human faces, gestures, speech. Sometimes we may recognize them where they really aren't. That's not to say that real "apparitions", ghosts, etc. cannot ALSO exist independently, but I believe in many cases its cognitive overinterpretation (oh, that sounded fancy)
I won't discount the possibility that my "eyes" didnt actually see these events, that my brain interpreted some random particles and then made sence of them, by compiling a "close as possibe", rational thing, to what it was I think I was seeing or feeling. "Like the Birds did that one night", and the "spider like thing that grabbed me".

I discount 99% people see as misinterpreted, including me. There's alway's that little part of me that wonders...hmm :-?
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Well people don't normally like to admit this sort of stuff ... but what the heck ...

One night I was awakened by a sudden physical contact. I was instantly wide awake and hovering over me was an apparition of a woman - from the waist up. She had long brown hair and a short sleeve shirt. There was nothing "menacing" about her - just a sense that she was passing through. She hovered for about 30 seconds gradually elevating away and then faded through the wall.

I've never seen such a thing before or since then. Its not anything that I could ever (or even care to) "prove", but I know how I was awakened, know that I was in fact awake, and know what I saw.
And I'm a Dutchman. [-(
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I remember on our national morning news program (sunrise)-live- the weather guy was at a jail and about 5mins after the weather they got an email saying that someone had seen a figure moving across the background- you know the place were all the guards stand above.... so they went to an add break and when they came back they replayed it and there it was.... I dunno if it was a set up or not but they did look genuinely shocked/supprised.
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I've experienced sleep paralysis on a number of occasions. It is very unpleasant. Most times it is just the variety where one thinks they have awakened, tries to move, but cannot. However, once (during an afternoon nap) I was going through that same version but kept trying to "shake" myself out of it and went through the "layers of sleep" experience. The weird part was that in the final layer I dreamed that I had successfully woken up and gained my feet. I then forced my eyes open only to see my room from a horizontal perspective. So, what was happening was I was still asleep and dreaming that I was upright, but my eyes were open and seeing the world from a lying-down perspective. I will never forget that feeling - "felt" like I was standing up but seeing the world sideways.

I've also (fairly recently) had the "presence" version of sleep paralysis, where an old lady walked into the room and stood by the bed - she leaned over to look me in the face - closer, closer, closer, nose-to-nose, I notice I can't move, almost touching - then she gives this big freakish grin, and I notice she has glowing, but smokey grey eyes. Then, for lack of a better term, I "totally freak out" and forced myself awake.

Up until I had this experience I never really worried about sleep paralysis - it was always kind of fun (or at least interesting). Since then, I have been trying to avoid it. I've noticed that I only ever have it when I am sleeping on my back. Anyone else ever notice this? Anyone ever have to roll-over to see the apparition floating over them?

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