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View Poll Results: Is 0.999999... equivalent to 1?
Yes. 92 76.67%
No. 28 23.33%
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Let's see how this poll stands up after thirty pages of debate. 8)
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So far, so good.
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20% "no's" already :roll:
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20% "no's" already :roll:
Stop being so negative. It's two no's, and we still have two people arguing on the other thread. By contrast, it's 9 yes votes. Give it a little time.
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Proudly brandishes inky (index) finger. :P

[Edit for clarification. Context is everything. 8) ]
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I've helped to move that poll in the right direction.
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13-4.

Hey, I'm an engineer. Within 10% is usually close enough. Precision beyond the third decimal is unnecessary and usually wasteful.
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For the benefit of latecomers to this debate, we should provide them with its context. Let's hope they don't fall asleep half way through the context.
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For the benefit of latecomers to this debate, we should provide them with its context. Let's hope they don't fall asleep half way through the context.
It should really be in the OP, and it shoudl say "read this before voting".

26% no's, that's 30% to one significant place, which is almost 1/3, which is the best part of 50%, which if written as 0.5 rounds up to 1, which is a everyone!
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For the benefit of latecomers to this debate, we should provide them with its context. Let's hope they don't fall asleep half way through the context.
It should really be in the OP, and it shoudl say "read this before voting".

26% no's, that's 30% to one significant place, which is almost 1/3, which is the best part of 50%, which if written as 0.5 rounds up to 1, which is a everyone!
Well, do your own poll if you don't like mine. Probably, the only way to be truly accurate is to have each person state their position and someone with time on their hands can add it all up. It's still turning out better than the first poll.
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It should really be in the OP, and it shoudl say "read this before voting".
But that would be heartless and cruel. :wink:
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26% no's, that's 30% to one significant place, which is almost 1/3, which is the best part of 50%, which if written as 0.5 rounds up to 1, which is a everyone!
We're at 1/3 or 33.333333...% If we triple the yea votes that will give us 3/3 or 3 x 33.3333333...% or 99.999999999...%


One nagging question: Did we really need another thread on this topic?
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One nagging question: Did we really need another thread on this topic?
If you had finished reading the other thread, you would know the answer to that question.
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I'm afraid to ask (and I don't want to start up that discussion here too), did anybody in the other thread ask about cutting something to such a lenght? If so, what chapter?

Being an engineer and not a mathmatician, if somebody can cut me a piece pipe to 26.999999999999999999999... inches and keep it from being 27 inches or 26.99999999...999990 I'll vote no.

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I may just vote no because I think we live in a free society and it's extremely fascist to make everyone vote one way!!! [-(

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Who are the holdouts up there
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For the benefit of latecomers to this debate, we should provide them with its context. Let's hope they don't fall asleep half way through the context.
It should really be in the OP, and it shoudl say "read this before voting".

26% no's, that's 30% to one significant place, which is almost 1/3, which is the best part of 50%, which if written as 0.5 rounds up to 1, which is a everyone!
Well, do your own poll if you don't like mine.
Alright, keep your hair on. I thought the point of your pole was to demonstrate your point that many people would have initially voted no and then changed their minds after having read the other thread. After Disinfo's comment it just occurred to me that some people may vote on your pole before realizing there was another thread about it thus enabling you to make the same claim about your pole should it not back up your claim 8-[
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Poll, not pole. :wink:
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Yes, because it is in my nature to trust people on topics when they know a lot more about them than I do. Especially when they agree amongst themselves. But not because it makes sense to me. Which it doesn't, but that's only because I am limited by my perspective, part of which is having very limited knowledge of the topic.

Or should I just say, . . . UNCLE! #-o

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I voted the same way I voted the last time. ATP is going to give me a lashing. :P
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Have you read the other thread?
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I read that other thread when it was in its infancy, and it convinced me to vote yes, but one thing I don't follow at all is this:
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Yes. If you don't agree, just ask yourself what you would get if you substracted 9.99999999999999........ from 1.
Why is it that you wouldn't just get -8.99999999....?
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I voted for 0.9999r = 0.9999r and 1.0 = 1.0 whatever that means...

Isn't the difference between them equal to some kind of infinity...so long as you go to an infinite number of decimal places?? #-o #-o #-o #-o #-o
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Well, do your own poll if you don't like mine.
Alright, keep your hair on. I thought the point of your pole was to demonstrate your point that many people would have initially voted no and then changed their minds after having read the other thread. After Disinfo's comment it just occurred to me that some people may vote on your pole before realizing there was another thread about it thus enabling you to make the same claim about your pole should it not back up your claim 8-[
My hair is on. Don't you worry.

Besides, it kind of does still demonstrate my point. The numbers are WAY better on this poll than the last one. I know you won't be happy as long as one person votes the wrong way, but I honestly think this demonstrates that people on this board are willing to change when given new information. It's the reason I love this board.
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Besides, it kind of does still demonstrate my point. The numbers are WAY better on this poll than the last one.
Yes, I think the results to demonstrate your point.
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Well we'll never know now, because we don't know how many voted the wrong way before reading the other thread and changing their minds :P
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but I honestly think this demonstrates that people on this board are willing to change when given new information. It's the reason I love this board.
I agree.
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FWIS, why make fun of the folks who don't except your 'new information' as fact? It doesn't seem nice for some reason. :-?
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Hey, I'm an engineer. Within 10% is usually close enough. Precision beyond the third decimal is unnecessary and usually wasteful.
Unless you're a safety engineer, and then they want precision to the millionth place.
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FWIS, why make fun of the folks who don't except your 'new information' as fact? It doesn't seem nice for some reason. :-?
What are you talking about? Who's making fun of you?
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Besides, it kind of does still demonstrate my point. The numbers are WAY better on this poll than the last one. I know you won't be happy as long as one person votes the wrong way, but I honestly think this demonstrates that people on this board are willing to change when given new information. It's the reason I love this board.
I guess I should ask you what you mean by what I bolded. To me, from what has already been written that the majority voting for yes are right, and the minority voting for no are wrong. Am I reading to much into 'your' words?

If so, my apologies. FYI, I never said anything was directed at me. :wink:
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Can we get 5 more people to vote no, and one more person to vote yes? That would make the totals look like this:



which would mean that 33.33333... % had voted no, and 66.66666... % had voted yes. And that of course adds up to 99.9999... %

the very definition of irony.
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