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A victory for common sense?

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Definitely.

I don't see the big deal. Winamp is freely available for download, so is media player. Until now, media player was standard software on windows. Those who wanted winamp instead, could install it in one minute.

This agreement has more principal than practical value in my opinion.

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Earlier versions of WMP did not bother me; 9 and above do, because they purposefully exclude an "uninstall" option. That, IMHO, is not right.

As it was (until now) a standard windows component, you can uninstall it from add/remove windows components (version 9 here)

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The add/remove option does not exist on systems running ME, XP/XP Pro. If you upgrade to WMP 10, you can "roll back" to 9. But there is no option to remove the software. It won't go away.

Yep, I wouldn't have an issue with WMP if it had a simple uninstall option. As it is, it's just more Windows bloatware clogging the system and very pernicious. Aparantly it is possible to get rid of it but you have to know exactly what you are doing. Miss one item and it'll re-install - worse than a virus!

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On windows XP pro, I can uninstall WMP using "add/remove windows components". I'm sorry, but that's just the way it is on this computer.

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Try it and then go look at your Program Files directory. It doesn't remove the components.

Indeed. I haven't tried it (this isn't my PC ) but the small print says that it removes the link in the start menu. wheeeee!! I'm glad I can do that via add/remove windows components, instead of taking the long way using right click and "remove" on the link itself... :roll: :roll:

I never realized WMP couldn't be uninstalled. I'll have to check my own PC on WMP version. I don't use WMP much. And as I don't use system restore points, it is very well possible I can't elegantly uninstall it. :roll:

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Reminds me of my issues with Windows Messenger. Not MSN.

You go to add/remove windows components for Windows Messenger, uninstall it, and before you know it, it's back there again!

Try ripping out of the Program Files directory, and it just copies itself back.

Evil!

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Also after you disabled the service in services?

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Wasn't trying to argue with you, perhaps that sheds some light on our complaints.

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It sheds quite some watts indeed. I thought the add/remove function uninstalled the WMP itself, but it merely is a long way for removing only the start menu link.

It seems that there's no way to uninstall if you don't have a system restore point. WMP doesn't harm me, so it isn't really a problem to me. Since XP I lost control of my HD anyway :-? :roll:

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*gasp*

....ahahahaaaaaaahahahahaaaaaaa!

Try this?

I use more of a commando method solely for personal satisfaction, but perhaps that's worth a shot for you.

It's pretty bad, when the only option that MS provides is a registry edit. Not that it's a particularly hard task or anything. I don't have the problem with Windows Messenger running on startup anyways, though I've had that problem with other peoples computers where it likes to hide in the background.

Two completely different things.

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Just to make clear: I meant "also after you disabled the "windows messenger service" in the "services" part of you control panel"

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This is my favorite way of getting rid of Windows Media Player

No such thing my friend. There is a "messenger service", but that serves a completely different function.

http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/u.../stopspam.mspx

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I learn a lot today. "Windows Messenger" is that thing that looks like an old MSN version but isn't "the real thing"?

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Bingo.

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OK thanks. I didn't realize there were 3 "parties". On reflection, I do know that the faculty PCs use MSN (internet chatting), windows Mennsenger (never used but in start bar), and messenger service (network printer messages and the like) #-o

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