Chatroom
 

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Bad Astronomy and Universe Today Forum > General > Off-Topic Babbling
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

   

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #91 (permalink)  
Old 14-April-2005, 10:16 PM
SciFi Chick's Avatar
SciFi Chick SciFi Chick is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2003
Location: Virginia
Posts: 1,791
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicolas
that just might be the solution. No sky hence no air resistance hence much less friction hence less fuel consumption!!! And immediate death, but you can't have the cake and eat it too...
Which is why I always buy two cakes. :P
__________________
"The oxen are slow, but the earth is patient."
Reply With Quote
  #92 (permalink)  
Old 14-April-2005, 10:29 PM
Nicolas's Avatar
Nicolas Nicolas is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Belgium
Posts: 11,232
Default

You've bought the stratosphere?

will resume on topic
vvvvvvv
__________________
To the regular visitor of internet bulletin boards it is clear that it's an excellent idea your parents get to choose your real name.
Reply With Quote
  #93 (permalink)  
Old 14-April-2005, 10:51 PM
Manchurian Taikonaut's Avatar
Manchurian Taikonaut Manchurian Taikonaut is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Sol's pale blue dot
Posts: 1,634
Default

US prices were once the envy of many around the world
the USA have had a policy of cheap gas for Industry and Transport

but now there is economic trouble, and the Middle east seems a mess and some of those corrupt Arab nations are taking the US for a ride with their Opec nonsense, hikes in minerals and the sudden rise in the price of petroleum and Crude Oil

Canada, Japan and Spain also once had near-enough cheap Prices
but the cost of Fuel has skyrocketed

Italy is a total rip-off
that's why they all drive economical cars
Germans have also paid a lot


as Industry in places like India, Brazil and China continue to grow prices will continue to soar
Plus a number of Oil people tell me that we may see the Oil-resources dry-up
power stations may have to look to other sources of Energy like Nuclear but its needs to have good safety

Here are some tips
http://www.timemanagement4u.com/gas.chtml
how to save cost
here are some examples


Quote:
# Clear out excess items out of the car, especially the trunk. A lighter car uses less gas
# Use air conditioning and heat only when necessary. They eat fuel. Roll down the windows and open the vents
Reply With Quote
  #94 (permalink)  
Old 14-April-2005, 11:10 PM
Russ's Avatar
Russ Russ is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Southern Ohio
Posts: 1,583
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by snowcelt
I remember paying the equivalent of .75 a litre in 1979 in Germany whilst I was stationed there, as a Canadian soldier. On January 01/2005 I was paying .75 a litre. This is 25 and a half years later. I think us North Americans should stop snivelling.
I hate this "Americans should stop snivelling." Sugar Honey Ice Tea. Just because the other guys have a bad deal doesn't mean we should too. :roll:
__________________
It's just one of those damn things of which there are many few. -- Dan Blocker
Reply With Quote
  #95 (permalink)  
Old 15-April-2005, 02:24 AM
Doe, John's Avatar
Doe, John Doe, John is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: undisclosed
Posts: 634
Default

Russ, please stop with the acronyms.
__________________
Free speech is no problem
It's listening that costs
Reply With Quote
  #96 (permalink)  
Old 15-April-2005, 02:34 AM
tmosher's Avatar
tmosher tmosher is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Savannah, Georgia - Down by the Sea
Posts: 2,265
Default Re: Highway Robbery

Quote:
Originally Posted by R.A.F.
Quote:
Originally Posted by R.A.F.
Quote:
Originally Posted by R.A.F.
Prices for 87 octane in CA are "hovering" around 2.50 a gallon.
Actually, I "mis-spoke" it's more like 2.40 a gallon for regular...ops:
...and my "mis-spoke" didn't last for long...(5 days to be exact)...87 octane in northern CA is now at 2.50 a gallon.
$2.50 a gallon, that's cheap compared to what I'm going to have to pay to fill up the tanks on the Cessna a few times in about a month. I'll be coughing up at the minimum, $3.50 a gallon for 100LL (100 octane low lead) avgas. I dread to see what the prices are going to be in the Dominican Republic, Provo, and the Bahamas. I'll think I'm in heaven once I get to the states.

[rant]
I'll admit, Americans are finally paying near the true cost for gasoline. Maybe it will change our driving habits (finally). In the morning on my way to work, I see literally hundreds of cars in traffic heading toward the George Bush (yes, we have a toll road named after George I). Each of those cars has a single occupant. Mind you, my commute is against traffic, not with it.

I'm starting to regret that I bought that Nissan truck - it gets, at most, 28 MPG and I have a 90 mile round trip commute every morning (I'm trying to change jobs to reduce my commute to a most 30 miles per day). I have, however, stopped driving the old Benz - she only gets at the most 20 mpg. Time to start riding the bike more - that get's at least 40 mpg (it's a BMW K-bike so it doesn't have the best fuel economy).

[/rant]
__________________
I feel a hot wind on my shoulder
And the touch of a world that is older
Reply With Quote
  #97 (permalink)  
Old 15-April-2005, 08:28 AM
mid's Avatar
mid mid is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2004
Location: UK
Posts: 1,150
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Manchurian Taikonaut
some of those corrupt Arab nations are taking the US for a ride with their Opec nonsense, hikes in minerals and the sudden rise in the price of petroleum and Crude Oil
Quite apart from the fact that it's up to them how much they charge for a product, not the US, you really, really don't want to cast the first stone when it comes to trade restriction arguments. Steel, anyone?
Reply With Quote
  #98 (permalink)  
Old 15-April-2005, 10:52 AM
TriangleMan's Avatar
TriangleMan TriangleMan is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Qatar
Posts: 3,528
Default Re: Fuel prices

Quote:
Originally Posted by Halcyon Dayz
Production has peaked out and demand is still rising.
This can only lead to rising oil prices. Fuel will never be cheap again. A price of $100 per barrel lies just around the corner.
With inflation adjustment I'm surprised oil has remained as cheap as it has for so long. This webpage does discuss the $100/barrel issue but I linked it because it has a chart showing inflation-adjusted historical oil prices. In the late 70s and early 80s oil was the 2003 equivalent of $60-85 per barrel. $100/barrel is not an unrealistic price in the future but I don't think it will reach that in the next few years. It will have an impact on the economy as the cost of goods will increase but I don't think it will cause economic chaos. It should inspire people to save energy, much like during the energy crisis a few decades ago.
__________________
Now while I might be amused by Cthulhians, I don't necessarily distrust them to carry out the functions of government. -- JayUtah

What's it like being a skeptic in the Middle East? Check out my blog.
Reply With Quote
  #99 (permalink)  
Old 15-April-2005, 06:40 PM
Russ's Avatar
Russ Russ is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Southern Ohio
Posts: 1,583
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Doe, John
Russ, please stop with the acronyms.
Is this official notice? It really is my attempt to not be crude.
__________________
It's just one of those damn things of which there are many few. -- Dan Blocker
Reply With Quote
  #100 (permalink)  
Old 15-April-2005, 08:03 PM
Moose's Avatar
Moose Moose is online now
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2002
Location: The Maritimes
Posts: 7,303
Send a message via MSN to Moose
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doe, John
Russ, please stop with the acronyms.
Is this official notice? It really is my attempt to not be crude.
Official? Hardly. There are no moderators but Phil.

That said, in the nature of a friendly caution, Phil has in the past warned people for masking profanity. I will admit, the acronym is creative, but it almost certainly will draw a warning if Phil chooses to take official notice. History shows you'll only get one of those.
__________________
[Dr. Horrible]___________________________[Penny]
Listen close to everybody's heart________And you believe there's good in everybody's heart
And hear that breaking sound_____________Keep it safe and sound
Hopes and dreams are shattering apart____With hope you can do your part
And crashing to the ground_______________To turn a life around
Reply With Quote
  #101 (permalink)  
Old 16-April-2005, 03:56 AM
Doe, John's Avatar
Doe, John Doe, John is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: undisclosed
Posts: 634
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Russ
Quote:
Originally Posted by Doe, John
Russ, please stop with the acronyms.
Is this official notice? It really is my attempt to not be crude.
Hardly official. Just asking politely as one poster to another. Thank you.
__________________
Free speech is no problem
It's listening that costs
Reply With Quote
  #102 (permalink)  
Old 01-September-2005, 06:57 PM
Launch window's Avatar
Launch window Launch window is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Posts: 1,900
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by SciFi Chick
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicolas
The reason why we react in such a way is because of the messages sent out by some that "the US economy will get killed in the high gas prices", while we show that high gas prices not necessarily make an economy impossible.
furthermore, our prices are higher, and they go up as well:

1.026 €/l in 2003
1.274 €/l now.
Well, clearly, you and I are talking past each other. I shouldn't lump you in with rude individuals who say we're snivelling, and you shouldn't lump me in with people who say it will destroy the U.S. economy. 8)
people are taking advantage of the Katrina disaster and now there is panic buying

$3.29 near Oklahoma

Illinois area $2.75 per gallon

Needles Cal it was $3.30 a gallon

Gasoline prices were climbing out of control Wednesday in the aftermath of Hurricane Katrina.

Gasoline in Atlanta, Georgia was selling for nearly $6 a gallon.


$ SIX DOLLARS PRICE spotted at Georgia

storm already forced the shutdown of an estimated 1 million barrels of refining capacity along the nation's Gulf Coast.
One third of the USA's oil production and petrol refinery could be damaged
Prices jumped by more than 50 cents a gallon overnight in Ohio
At Northlake Boulevard and Military Trail in Palm Beach Gardens, the Rev. Greg Stevenson was pumping regular Wednesday at a Marathon station that was selling the fuel for $3.09 a gallon.
"I'm topping off before it goes to $3.20 or $3.50," said Stevenson, a minister at a church in West Palm Beach. "It's not going to get better. It's going to get worse."
Matt McKenzie, spokesman for from AAA-Northern New England, predicted gas prices would hit $3.70 to $3.80 by month's end in that region of the country
Analysts said price increases nationwide probably wouldn’t stop until gas hit $4 per gallon.
Reply With Quote
  #103 (permalink)  
Old 01-September-2005, 07:35 PM
jrkeller's Avatar
jrkeller jrkeller is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Houston near the Johnson Space Center
Posts: 2,651
Default

About 3$ a gallon here in Houston.
Reply With Quote
  #104 (permalink)  
Old 01-September-2005, 08:01 PM
NEOWatcher's Avatar
NEOWatcher NEOWatcher is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: the E(e)rie coast
Posts: 7,306
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Launch window
Quote:
Originally Posted by SciFi Chick
Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicolas
The reason why we react in such a way is because of the messages sent out by some that "the US economy will get killed in the high gas prices"
SNIP
people are taking advantage of the Katrina disaster and now there is panic buying
SNIP

storm already forced the shutdown of an estimated 1 million barrels of refining capacity along the nation's Gulf Coast.
One third of the USA's oil production and petrol refinery could be damaged
Prices jumped by more than 50 cents a gallon overnight in Ohio
See, it's all panic and rumor. According to this chart, the gulf cost (excluding Texas is about 3M barrels of about 16M) so even if ALL of this refining capacity is damaged, it still is nohwere near 1/3 (a little above half that).
What are the real numbers? It will probably take a little time to get it sorted out.
Reply With Quote
  #105 (permalink)  
Old 01-September-2005, 08:04 PM
ToSeek's Avatar
ToSeek ToSeek is offline
Vulcan Moderator
 
Join Date: Oct 2001
Location: Greenbelt, MD
Posts: 24,227
Default

Old Greenbelt Citgo (just down the road from Goddard):

Monday: $2.70/gal.
Wednesday: $2.90/gal.
Thursday: $3.20/gal.
__________________
Everything I need to know I learned through Googling.
Reply With Quote
  #106 (permalink)  
Old 01-September-2005, 08:08 PM
pghnative's Avatar
pghnative pghnative is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: New Jersey
Posts: 2,196
Default

ToSeek, you've ToSeeked yourself!

The jump in gas prices due to Katrina is already being discussed over there.
Reply With Quote
  #107 (permalink)  
Old 01-September-2005, 08:11 PM
Halcyon Dayz's Avatar
Halcyon Dayz Halcyon Dayz is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: NLD - Sol III
Posts: 1,619
Default

Why didn't people top off before the storm hit?
I mean, whatever happens, the price was bound to go up.
__________________
An idea is not responsible for the people who believe in it.
Join the Illuminati
Reply With Quote
  #108 (permalink)  
Old 01-September-2005, 08:26 PM
NEOWatcher's Avatar
NEOWatcher NEOWatcher is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: the E(e)rie coast
Posts: 7,306
Default

Not just gas... how about coffee and cotton.
I got a kick out of "Arabica futures at the NYBOT was up"

But still, according to this article, Gasoline futures trading was stopped when it hit a 25 cent limit. Good that there is some limit in place, but if that was stopped at 25, and the average went up 50, what does that tell you.
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On