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Old 18-May-2005, 01:30 PM
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Page rank is different than links coming in. It is an assignment of how "important" a page is, on a log scale from 0 to 10. Try a search on the term and you'll see.
Ah, I see. If you just want to maximize your Page Rank, as given by the formula:

PR(A) = (1-d) + d(PR(t1)/C(t1) + ... + PR(tn)/C(tn))

...don't change the site, and continue to hand-add links and pages that the search bots can index. It's a fact that increasing the number of indexed non-duplicate content pages increases your page rank.

Integrating all of your elements, especially without changing the HTML nature and structure, is going to take a little work; and as far as content-management goes it sounds like you'd like an easier way to change/update without losing the high number of content pages.

What might be a compromise is an interface that will allow you to more easily edit the content of your page, while still outputting it as HTML to the site, one that handles the tables and such automatically, but still allows you to edit links, add blocks, and the like.

There are a number of open-source (i.e. low cost) content management systems out there, from CMSimple (all your content stored on ONE PAGE! No DB necessary!) to Kumera (Perl-based and really meant to be used to edit pages for upload... you need your own little server to run it) and almost everything in-between.

It sounds like you'd like just a system to edit your pages online by just putting in new content without having to find the content amid a field of html tags, with perhaps a few automated features thrown in (automatic link building from a directory, for instance...)
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LunarOrbit I already know that won't work: I've tried variations on that theme when I added textlinks to my site. My web host does not want me to parse all HTML pages as php scripts because of the load on the server. If I go to a dedicated server, I guess that won't be a problem though.
Actually it still would:
If no PHP/SSI is allowed in html files the server does:
Read The File -> Send
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Read The File -> Pare SSI (time consuming) -> Parse PHP (Time consuming) -> Send

even if there is no SSI or PHP the server still needs to send the document through the php parser and SSI pareser!

And a site with your load levels, that will drag the server's preformence down a lot!
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I'm a lurker so not too active but I would hrow in a reccomendation for you to go to a content management system rather than stay with handcoded HTML. By your posts it sounds like you want a nice looking, integrated solution that will enable you to post many content types (blogs, news, adverts, forums etc etc) and have them all fit together seamlessly. A good content management system will allow you to do that and also give you the ability to search all the content for specific words/content which I think would be very useful. Someone already pointed you towards an opensource CMS review site. You could also look at http://www.cmsmatrix.org/ and http://www.opensourcecms.com/ which enables you to try out the CMS on a demo package online to see what they are like. I use Drupal for my personal site and would highly reccomend it but there are many others that you could look at to see if they fit your needs.
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Old 20-May-2005, 10:10 PM
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I know I seem to slip this in alot, so don't get mad, how about some updated emoticon? That's all that I ask. Just a few? Nothing too drastic, like dancing bananas. \/

One thing about web design theses days, there sure is a boatload more ways to deliver them.
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If new emoticons get slipped in, I'd like them to match the ones we have. Or get an entirely new, consistent set. I can't stand boards that mix sets. Just looks wrong.
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1) I want to do everything using cascading style sheets. I use HTML tables now, and I hate them.

2) I would like to go to a width of 750 or so pixels.

3) The ads are staying. Sorry, folks, but at $100/month for hosting, that's a firm statement.

4) I'd like to integrate the blog and BABB better, but I'm not sure how this will work. It depends on the next version of phpBB, but it's something I'm keeping an eye on.

5) It must be expandable, in that I want to be able to add a new section or something eventually.
I would like to comment on number 4, I seriously think you should stray away from phpBB because IPB is better and easier. With 2.1 under devolopement its a whole new ballgame! Dude, I could seriously buy the $200 IPB license because I have nothing better to do with my money and I would love to see phpBB bite the dust. Please for the love for god check the site out.

http://invisionboard.com/
Just curious: why the demonization of PhpBB? And why kill the open source, which would not require COTS code to update or modify?

And looking at it- $185 for purchase, $275 to keep the copyright from being prominent everywhere, $50 for blog support, $65 for gallery...
It adds up pretty quick...
$185 is all the BA would need to pay for it unless you want a useless gallery, and a blog system #-o

There's only one copyright and it says:

"Invision Power Board v2.X.X © 2005 IPS, Inc."

Invision Power Board = Link to Invisionboard.com
IPS, Inc. = Link to invisionpower.com

Heres an example (bottom): http://narutodawn.invisionzone.com/
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Old 23-May-2005, 07:35 PM
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He wants a blog system.
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Old 23-May-2005, 07:48 PM
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InvisionBlog allows all users to have one Blog on their IPB 2.X.X forums, The BA could host one on his deticated server through CPanel or Fantastico at no charge to him and since he only needs one paying $50 for a blog system is just stupid.
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Old 24-May-2005, 04:42 AM
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If you want to better integrate the BABlog and the BABB, it might be good to remove the comments option from the BABlog and simply open a new forum on the BABB for discussion of the BABlog.
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Old 24-May-2005, 06:07 AM
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Canuck, I actually thought of that. I hate to do it, unless I can do what Universe Today does and have a thread in the forum automatically made when a new blog entry is written, and a link placed on the blog. Most bloggers know about comments, and I think they'd prefer to stick with the usual method.
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Old 24-May-2005, 06:20 AM
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Most bloggers know about comments, and I think they'd prefer to stick with the usual method.
Huh. I'm new to the whole thing myself, so if that's how it's done, that's how it's done.
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InvisionBlog allows all users to have one Blog on their IPB 2.X.X forums, The BA could host one on his deticated server through CPanel or Fantastico at no charge to him and since he only needs one paying $50 for a blog system is just stupid.
Sorry but:

Just drop it :roll:
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Old 24-May-2005, 05:12 PM
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You can easily integrate IPB into your site and blog, alot of people do it.

http://invisionize.com/ is a great example of forum to site integration and they have tools to do it. :wink:
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Old 24-May-2005, 05:28 PM
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I don't see any point in paying that much money for IPB when you can run phpbb or SMF for free.
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I don't see any point in paying that much money for IPB when you can run phpbb or SMF for free.
Sinds when do you need to pay for IPB? i'm running it and i didn't play, but my copy is well rather old though
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Old 25-May-2005, 03:22 AM
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This is a free trial version which has the following limitations:

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The trial version is encoded which means you are unable to view the PHP source or modify the PHP source. There are also these hard limits:

* 5000 Posts
* 1000 Topics
* 1000 Personal Messages
* 200 Members
* Bulk Mailer Disabled
* Language Editing Disabled
* SQL Toolbox Disabled
* No IPB Portal Included
* No SSI Export Facilities
* No ability to upgrade between trial versions

If you exceed any one of these limits, your board is turned offline and access to your ACP is removed. If you choose to purchase a full Invision Power Board you can upgrade your trial version to a full version so you won't lose your current members, posts, etc. The full version comes with readable source code which means you're free to modify the PHP code for your personal use.
The 5000 post, 1000 topic, and 200 member limits would make it unsuitable for the BABB (or even just one of the BABBling threads ).

To remove those limits you have to pay $69 for a yearly license or $185 for a life-time license.

Unless IPB has some amazing features that no other forum software has I can't see it being worth the price.
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I'll put it this way: I am sticking with phpBB. I have no desire to learn new software, migrate my (very very very large) database, and then have to pay for it.

That's a decision that will almost certainly not change.
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Old 26-May-2005, 06:15 PM
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How about adding an invitation to support science by joining the Einstein@home BABB team. After all it must be a worthwhile cause if the Bad Astronomer himself is a member.
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I'll put it this way: I am sticking with phpBB. I have no desire to learn new software, migrate my (very very very large) database, and then have to pay for it.

That's a decision that will almost certainly not change.
Its EASIER and theres no learning, my nephue has mastered IPB and hes a complete IDIOT! IPS, Inc. will install IPB and migrate your NOT REALLY large database for free when you buy. With the yearly and / or perpetual they will install everything you need for no charge!

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Unless IPB has some amazing features that no other forum software has I can't see it being worth the price.
Blog System, Gallery, File Manager (real useful), Top Site List, Chat, Newbie Friendly interface, and in 2.1 the Admin CP has a bunch of new features and looks sweet, It's like VBulletin on steroids! You get unlimited upgrades for 1 year with the yearly license, its the greatest.. There is no better!

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I don't see any point in paying that much money for IPB when you can run phpbb or SMF for free.
phpBB is inferior to IPB, by miles, and SMF sucks.

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Sinds when do you need to pay for IPB? i'm running it and i didn't play, but my copy is well rather old though
Since 2.0.0 was released 1.3.1 and up are all paid. Current Version is 2.0.4, versions barely exceed x.0.4 because they usually turn into x.1, When I get some birthday money I'm gonna buy the IPB lifetime license.
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GIVE IT A REST!
IBP sucks
I've got everything you mention and it's all open source. Do you expect all of us to learn and get used to a new BB. The BA desn't even want a new BB he just want to redesin the main site that's atached to this board. in HTML I heard him say earlier....
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I dont quit pal.

Phil, we can do this the easy way and you can give in right now, or I can annoy you until you eventually give in, which shall it be bud?
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I have a funny feeling he won't give in...
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Phil, we can do this the easy way and you can give in right now, or I can annoy you until you eventually give in, which shall it be bud?
Hmm, does it support ignore user so we don't see their posts?
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Phil, we can do this the easy way and you can give in right now, or I can annoy you until you eventually give in, which shall it be bud?
This isn't helping you. The BA has made a decision after considering his options. That's it. Being annoying won't help you in any way. Don't bother. This is his site, and his decisions are final. Period.
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LoL! Yes, and it has a thing where you can choose to show or not show Avatars / Signatures
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Some ideas (feel free to ignore them):

Have you investigated CityDesk from Fog Creek Software? It is designed for online publishing, where you can define a site template, do some of it's internal scripting, and then just add articles, and it will upload the whole thing to the web as flat HTML pages. It's good for minimizing management of lots of articles/pages.

On a design note, having the blog and the main page separate is IMO annoying. I would suggest that the blog basically be the main page. Check out www.joelonsoftware.com (the Fog Creek guy). He basically does the same thing.
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you could have something like this on the main page.



with some added software to generate shooting stars, that shoot across the sky every 10 seconds.
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You need a scalable solution. Create a template with CSS values set at 100%
More than 2/3's of my sceen is wasted and it looks kinda odd...

That new thing you have now is kinda- not good....
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Here is where you need to go to get what you need. You should add a whole bunch of animated GIFs and have some midi songs playing in the background automatically. And these guys seem to have the promotional power to take you to the next level...

Of course, you could start with what NOT to do, and work backwards.

Seriously, I vote for no Flash (or a very tame header if one must) and also for low bandwidth friendly as well. I like the way your blog looks color wise....it would match the board as well.
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