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Old 16-May-2005, 05:11 PM
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NOAA ISSUES 2005 ATLANTIC HURRICANE SEASON OUTLOOK

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NOAA hurricane forecasters are predicting another above-normal hurricane season on the heels of last year's destructive and historic hurricane season. "NOAA's prediction for the 2005 Atlantic hurricane season is for 12 to15 tropical storms, with seven to nine becoming hurricanes, of which three to five could become major hurricanes," said retired Navy Vice Adm. Conrad C. Lautenbacher, Ph.D., undersecretary of commerce for oceans and atmosphere and NOAA administrator at a news conference in Bay St. Louis, Miss. "Forecaster confidence that this will be an active hurricane season is very high."
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Here is more detail from the CNN story:

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The annual forecast from the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, announced Monday, calls for seven to nine hurricanes during the coming season, June 1 to November 30. Of those, three to five will be major storms ranked Category 3 or higher on the Saffir-Simpson scale of hurricane strength.

The forecast is slightly higher than 2004's, which predicted six to eight hurricanes, two to four of which would be at least Category 3, which has winds of 111 mph to 130 mph.

"The issue, really, this year is the anomalously warm sea surface temperatures in the Atlantic," said Frank Lepore of the National Hurricane Center in Miami, Florida.
Last year's season actually outperformed NOAA's forecast. Isn't Florida setting up a sales tax exemption for disaster supplies?
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Yah i forget when, but i think June is tax free for supplies. What they deem hurricane supplies i dont know.

Maybe i can get tax free on my video games if i explain that i need them incase of a hurricane to keep me from going crazy.

To tell the truth, even tough the destruction os horrible and the deaths are very, very ad. I do find hurricanes fun to go through.
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It seems like they are always predicting an "above normal" season. When does "above normal" stop being "above" and becomes "normal?"
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It seems like they are always predicting an "above normal" season. When does "above normal" stop being "above" and becomes "normal?"
When i figure out how to shut off this damn Doomsday weather machine!
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It seems like they are always predicting an "above normal" season. When does "above normal" stop being "above" and becomes "normal?"
From the NOAA forecast:

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NOAA's Atlantic hurricane outlook reflects an expected continuation of above-average activity that began in 1995. Since that time all but two Atlantic hurricane seasons have been above-normal. Hurricane season starts on June 1 and ends November 30.

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In contrast to the Atlantic, a below-normal hurricane season is expected in the Eastern and Central Pacific. NOAA's outlook for the Eastern Pacific hurricane season, also released today, calls for 11-15 tropical storms, with six to eight becoming hurricanes of which two to four may become major hurricanes. Two or three tropical cyclones are projected for the Central Pacific.
We seem to be in an up-cycle.
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Dr. Gray agrees.
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2005 Atlantic Storm Names

Arlene
Bret
Cindy
Dennis
Emily
Franklin
Gert
Harvey
Irene
Jose
Katrina
Lee
Maria
Nate
Ophelia
Philippe
Rita
Stan
Tammy
Vince
Wilma

[edit: Whoops! Looks like my source was using the 2006 list. The NOAA has the official list. I corrected the one posted above.
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Great link. Thanks.
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It seems like they are always predicting an "above normal" season. When does "above normal" stop being "above" and becomes "normal?"
When i figure out how to shut off this damn Doomsday weather machine!
Oh, so somebody is playing around with the Touchstone again...
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Planet X, better late than never I suppose!
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It seems like they are always predicting an "above normal" season. When does "above normal" stop being "above" and becomes "normal?"
I'm not sure who you mean by "they," but if you're talking about scientists and meteorologists, that's not true. In fact, most have been clear to NOT predict the frequency of hurricanes, though the intensity is something many do predict to be above normal based on nearly a century's worth of data plus climate changes, etc (noted in article below). But if intensity does increase, say in part due to global warming, then eventually that may become the norm over extended time--200 years data averages. They readily admit that we just don't know for sure. The media, otoh, is just whacky, and the bottom link I post here is for 1) his links, and 2) the data in related articles supports his idea that at least we should not dismiss the research so easily.

Either way, I love hurricanes, and people will just have to move or adapt. The east coast of Florida has just barely finished fixing up a lot of damage from 2004, and still there's much incompleted, so I'd hate to see that all get hammered again. However, I would love a Category 4 or 5 to come up the Gulf of Mexico in a northwesterly direction and land at San Luis Pass, Texas. Give the developers a run for their money!

Thanks ToSeek for that article.

Related info:
Hurricanes A compendium of hurricane information
NOAA Global Warming and Hurricanes
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Cool. I emailed the Galveston TV station quoted in my post above to point out their error and the webmaster made the correction and actually replied to thank me.

Of course I had to respond suggesting some promotional item would be a fitting reward.
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Cool. I emailed the Galveston TV station quoted in my post above to point out their error and the webmaster made the correction and actually replied to thank me.

Of course I had to respond suggesting some promotional item would be a fitting reward.
Yeah, like a weekend get-away on South Padre during the...ahem..."off" season.
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CORPUS CHRISTI - TxDOT officials say the Coastal Bend is more prepared than ever before should we need to evacuate because of a major storm.

A couple of major construction projects have wrapped up. The JFK Causeway getting off Padre Island is complete so that won't be a problem this year. Plus US 181, the Nueces Bay Causeway heading up toward Portland is also just about complete.
No hurricanes to speak of there for well over a decade. That bridge, btw, broke 3 yrs ago? in the nighttime and cars plunged to their deaths.

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UNDATED (AP) - British scientists say they've come up with a better way of predicting whether the United States is in for a bad Atlantic hurricane season.

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The researchers reported that the model correctly predicted the unusually active 2004 hurricane season, when Florida and other Southern states were pummeled with five hurricanes in a row. The British group will make its 2005 forecast on August 4th. Most Atlantic hurricanes that strike land develop after August first. Details appear in Thursday's issue of the journal Nature.
http://www.kristv.com/Global/story.asp?S=3248458
I wait with bated breath. :roll:
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The most recent hurricane to affect the south Texas coast was Hurricane Bret in August 1999, but it moved onshore over very sparsely populated land well south of Corpus Christi. (I used to live in Brownsville)

BTW, it was a section of the Queen Isabella Causeway (which links the town of South Padre Island to Port Isabel on the mainland) that collapsed after being hit by a barge.
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The most recent hurricane to affect the south Texas coast was Hurricane Bret in August 1999, but it moved onshore over very sparsely populated land well south of Corpus Christi. (I used to live in Brownsville)
Didn't even make the news!
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#-o Wrong bridge. Yeah, that's it, and that one was during the day. Which one was at night? Hmm....
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Old 17-May-2005, 05:23 PM
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Alot of Hurricane damamge still needs to be fixed. My father in laws pool screening is still in limbo. Roofing for many houses is still hard to get (Blue tarp has now become a fashion statement). You get the idea.

Lerts just say that the next huricane to have a direct6 hit here in Central Fl will do more damage than before juts becasue the rooves have not been fixed yet for many homes and busnesses.
Tress are realy not a problem anymore. Most of the bad ones were knocked down in the first three. :-)
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It seems like they are always predicting an "above normal" season. When does "above normal" stop being "above" and becomes "normal?"
If it works like temperatures and precipitation, after 30 years. Most climatological "normals" are 30-year averages.

I believe I recall reading in that article that the 1990s were below normal, and we've been running above normal since then (but I'm too short on time right now to verify that).
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Meanwhile, from the 'Other Side':
May 17
"A tropical depression in the Eastern Pacific was likely to grow into a tropical storm -- perhaps even a hurricane -- that could hit Central America by the weekend, forecasters said Tuesday...preliminary forecasts suggested it could emerge over the Caribbean as a tropical depression and regain some force while moving toward the Cayman Islands and Cuba...since 1966, only one tropical depression has ever hit the coasts of Guatemala or El Salvador in May."
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