I have some friends who firmly believe in that healing pyramid power, more specifically that a pyramid with the proportions of Cheops (same angles) and when it´s aligned with a meridian, it has healing, meditational and food conserving properties.

They get it from a scientology-like course called Pro-Vida. www.provida.org.br

Can you help me debunk it?

Ahhh, but pyramid power is real, no? :wink:

It does have the peculiar power to draw money from fools... or as Zahi Hawass calls them: "Pyramidiots."

Think of it this way: The egyptians used alot of Pyramids. So where are their pharoghs now? Where is their great empire?

MythBusters did an episode about it. completely bogus--the way the pyramided milk looked--well, I'll never know, actually, as I have mold issues and couldn't watch their findings.

unfortunately, the website isn't very good, but a quick Google search on "mythbusters pyramid" brings up some results that'll sum it up--and it's rerun season, so look for it to be reaired in the upcoming weeks.

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It gives the term pointy heads new meaning..

How dare you resort for logic to confront such great power!! :wink:

Pyramid Power?

That is so 1970's. Wait, let me grab my bong and I'll join them

8-[ \/

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Thanks but I need facts, sites, anything, so when I have a conversation about it I can list irrefutable proof that it´s wrong, if it is.

Is there a systematic refutation of pyramid power?

Should not the question be, "Is there evidence and mechanism to suggest existence. Is the way of science.

What!!! Sure pyramid power works, in Feb. 1976 Sittler had his 10 point night against the Bruins by resting his sticks under a pyramid. Later that season (April), he had a 5 goal game against the Flyers in the playoffs, Leafs took the series. Coach Red Kelly had pyramids beneath the players bench. :wink: Oh wait, the Leafs still didn't win the Stanley Cup #-o nevermind ...

edit: oops the Flyers beat the Leafs that series, it was the 78 playoffs where the Leafs beat the Flyers. ops: Still pyramid power did not help them win the Cup in '76.

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Throw out dubious data point, have convincing case!! :wink:

Not necessarily, once someone makes a claim you can put it to the test and then prove it right or wrong. I wanna know if anyone has tested that hypothesis.

mopc, you don't need to rely on someone else's results--you can create your own. Just ask your "believing" friends to come and watch while you store a dish of ice cream under a pyramid for 30 minutes. Does it preserve the ice cream? No. Or try a banana, for a couple of days. Does it preserve the banana? No.

Or get two brand new razor blades, right out of the package. Run them up and down the concrete sidewalk a few times, then put one underneath a pyramid and put the other one underneath something like a drinking glass. Then come back in a week and see which one shaves better.

Wow! A blast from the past.

When I was in my teens, I had a brief interest in this. Many of the claims were very subjective - for instance, if you put tea (or coffee, various vegetables, etc.) in a pyramid, it was supposed to make it taste better. And, lo! It would seem to taste a little better ... if you saw the tea being removed from the pyramid, and believed in it.

Obviously, you would need to do careful double-blind tests to see if there was anything to this. Various tests have been done, nothing ever comes from it. The key is to have careful, objective tests.

That´s the problem - while it´s easy to prove pyramids do not have extreme powers, it´s hard to prove it lacks more subtle ones.

These people claim pyramids aligned due north may preserve meat from rotting to a certain degree, and recompose rasorblades that have been used for normal shaving, not to mention unfalsifiable "benefits for health and meditation"

I guess the razorblade and the meat experiments would be nice, but I´m in no mood to buy pyramids, besides I don´t have to prove anything to myself, I just need to prove it to them, and if I do the experiments myself I have no way of proving them that I didn´t screw up on the cosmic energies or other catches.

Has anyone besides the Mythbusters tested that seriously? I mean, derision does not convince those people.

I hope I´ll be able to catch that Mythbusters episode but I bet the pyramidiots will say they made something wrong, didn´t channel the energies properly as the Pro-Vida course says.

HELP!


edit: another catch is that according to Pro-Vida, the pyramid loses its "charge" if touched on their summits.

I remember some serious tests, but they were some time ago, and I don't remember details. In California, the main pyramid fad was in the '70s. I don't think it matters much, if people really believe in something, objective testing procedures will not change their minds.

But I wanna go as far as I can.

This whole Pro-Vida course, rather popular in Brazil, actually seems inspired by that 70´s new-era wave that spread from the USA.

And, of course, the pyramidiots will always accuse you of accidentally touching the summit of the pyramid whenever your experimental findings show no difference for items stored inside a pyramid.

It's like the orgone energy people's claim that an Orgone Accumulator box will become "contaminated with DOR" and thereby becomes less-than-useless if it's in even a moderately-smoggy urban area for more than a couple of weeks, or if it's been exposed to fluorescent lights. If sitting in the Orgone Accumulator Box didn't help you, well, it must have become contaminated! :roll:

If Piazzi Smyth believed it it must be true :wink:

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I would strongly agree in getting them to agree to pony up their undeniable facts before you pony up years of research to the contrary...