Try not to make this a spoiler thread. Please discuss the novel if, like me, you've read it. Didja like it? What parts were the best? The funniest? The worst? What could we expect in the final book?

BTW, a 12-year-old "expert" on HP had a radio interview...I'll post the link here as soon as it is available on the net.


Enjoy the discussion! B)

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try to not spoil eh? Ok I'll do my best.

Funniest:
Harry's sarcasm has definitely improved; I'm rather enjoying that. His comments about not having to call him sir, and its my nickname.

The elf smack-down in the infirmary.

Good to have light moments with everything else going on.

My favorite character turned out to be the HBP, and although it doesn't bode well for him right now I think book 7 with have twists and turns explain what he did at the end.

Is that vague enough?

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Sure, I'll bite.

I expected this book to be excellent, and it did not disappoint; there are some excellent plot twists, great dialogue, and a certain tragedy at the end made it the book show the dynamics of human emotion better then ever.

One thing you have to give JK Rowling credit for is that the characters seem real. They feel pain, they can be mistaken, and most importantly, no one is perfect; you will defintently realize this at the end of this book, if you have missed it from the previous books, of course.

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I was startled that Dumbledore died, though I can't say that I'm completely surprised; I didn't think that Harry would ever be able to fight Voldemort if Dumbledore is always going to protect him.

What about Snape? That was shocking to me, actually. Dumbledore trusted him so much, that I actually believed him (though he did have some extreme animosity towards Harry). I can't wait to see what happens to him.

I think Harry will go to the Dursley's for a night, and then leave for Bill's wedding. After that, it seems like Harry's going to be hunting Voldemort day ad night. I'm not sure if he's not going back to Hogwarts; he said he wasn't, but I'm not too sure about that.



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Excellent book; I'm not sure if it's the best of the series, but it's up there. The first printing of 10.8 million books doesn't promise to last long;it's already sold 6.9 million, which is broke the record set by the Order of the Pheonix. (Also, it's going to make $150 million, which breaks Halo 2's record of $125 million. It sucks really: we have to wait 2 years for the final book....

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Hey Grant, is this the interview you were talking about?

Here's a couple more:

TIME
http://news.bbc.co.uk/cbbcnews/hi/newsid_4...800/4690885.stm
http://www.mugglenet.com/jkrinterview.shtml


And finally, here is a list of reviews of the book, just in case you're wondering if you should read this book.

Well, since you've spoiled it I will as well:

It was mostly good. However, it was very confusing at times. I thought that Harry's romance with Ginny was too short-lived. I was kinda glad that finally Rowling would have Harry go to Godric's Hollow....at last! The biggest problem with book six was that it was either predictable, or confusing. There was no middle ground. The ending was kinda shocking, because it did not end with Harry going back on the Hogwarts express.


Now, who could R.A.B stand for?

which astronomy related book is most popular and more sold like harry-potter series, is there any another rollings in astronomy, can you state the name and name of book?

Well, how can we discuss the best worst, and funniest parts with out spoilers? :huh: And at least I put spoiler warnings in...

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I agree about Ginny and Harry, but I can't say I'm surprised; it seemed like the kind of thing he would do. When the heck will Ron and Hermione get together though...

I don't agree with your predicatable or confusing statement; it seemed straightforward enough for me.

You know, I wouldn't be surprised if the 7 book takes off directly where the 6 stops; I think that she will continue from right after the 6 book.

I might as well too.


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R.A.B


Regulus Black, Sirius' younger brother. I think his name was tossed around a couple of times for this reason.

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Yeah Polly, that's what I thought as well. B)

I loved the book. In fact, I think it is one of the best and will make an incredible movie. I thought in places it was predictable but I guess when you deal with magic anything can happen at any time. I certainly would recommend it to anyone interested in a good read.

I wonder where this leaves Harry? It seems that it ended with him developing hate and wanting revenge. As we know one of the principles of the book is that the greatest of Harry's traits is love. I also wonder about Ginny. Where he has let her go I feel she may be the person who saves him from dark magic in the end. I also feel that Dumbledore is not gone and Snape and he are working a plan.

So many things to think about.

I have a new bent on this......


regardless of what rowling said, there will be an 8th book.

the 7th will deal with the dursleys, the wedding, his inherited new home, and just about all other loose ends, with the main driving plot being the hunt for Voldemort.
the real cliffhanger will be when harry finds the death eaters HQ and possibly escapes.

now, the 8th book will be where harry retreats after finding the death eaters HQ. goes back to hogwarts to gather potions, spells, magical items, cannon fodder(er, wizard infantry).

I really can't see where JK could pull this all off in one book, but then again I didin't think book 4 should have been one volume, but two.

plot suprises? harry gets injured, house elfs become the heavy hitters against voldemort. teachers fight alongside students against the death eaters. Snape begs forgiveness (he did not know D drank the potion, and thought he could survive the fall)

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I don't know about that Tater, she's been writing the books for 15 years. I'm pretty sure she has some idea how many books there will be .

Also, if any book should be two volumes, it's the Order of the Pheonix. It's over 800 pages long! In any case, she has said that it will most likely (she's not 100% sure) that it will be shorter then OotP. I'd say it will be the size of the 6 book.

And about Dumbledore's fall, the Avada Kedavra curse is what killed him, not the fall. No one can survive Avada Kedvra (except Harry, but that was a one time deal).

And I think the only person that fits R.A.B. (that we currently know of) is Regulus Black, so I agree with you two (Star and Polly) about that

I think Wormtail will retaliate against Snape in the 7th installment.

Most of the plot was predictable in book 6, especially the part about Snape hearing Trelawney's first prediction. That was kinda obvious when we learned of the prophecy in book 5.

I also think in book 7 Harry will romance with Ginny (as she'll probably be "legal" near the end of book 7).

Something will undoubtedly happen with the Dursleys at the outset of book 7, and I think we've all been waiting for Harry's brilliant idea to finally visit Godric's hollow.

We will probably find a soft spot in Cissy in book 7, and Malfoy will undoubtedly stay alive. Also, the odds of both Hermione and Ron W. surviving together don't look that high (one of them's gotta die).

Hagrid'll no doubt confront Riddle before Harry finishes him off.

In the end, Harry might not kill Voldemort, although some conversations Harry has with Dumbledore in HBP might invalidate that assumption.

authors have been known to change minds

ok, thats the one I meant(can't keep my books straight)

one thing that I hate about some authors, is that they try to keep to some standard, regardless of how the writing will suffer. in looking at the last chapter of the book, do you think she will be able to cram everything into one book?

shows how bad my memory is. couldnt remember what the spell was that Snape hit hit with....

but then again, it would have been a great plot twist if Snape cast a non-verbal spell while speaking the curse, thereby having witnesses believe the Dumbledore is dead, and that snape is loyal to voldemort, and that nearly all hope is lost.

but the last two chapters kill that idea completely.....

or do they?

assume snape (or an accomplice) hides Dumbledores real body, and a double is placed on the grounds. not impossible, as I bet all the time twisters did not get destroyed as mentioned (Dumbledore keeping one hidden would be his style)



Sadly, while such a storyline would keep everyone happy, and could get maybe even an 8th and 9th book to happen. I don't know if would turn up.

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OK Tater for lack of a better phrase, shut up!

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'I think Wormtail will retaliate against Snape in the 7th installment."

Snape is now the golden boy of the DE, rather untouchable to the rest of the gang. There's definitley going to be jealously among the ranks, but no DE is going to do him in, unless he's deep uncover, which I would like to believe but its more likely I'm in denial. As I said before he is my favorite character since the beginning with PS/SS.

"I also think in book 7 Harry will romance with Ginny (as she'll probably be "legal" near the end of book 7)."

Nope, I don't think that's gonna happen. JKR likes her hero to go it alone, it makes thing more interesting in her opinion. I strongly disagree but its her book.


"We will probably find a soft spot in Cissy in book 7, and Malfoy will undoubtedly stay alive."

You think so, I don't know. Draco didn't complete his task. Although Snape had to complete it, I don't think Draco is off the hook. If he isn't killed, he's certainly in for a rough time and rightly so little twerp.

"In the end, Harry might not kill Voldemort, although some conversations Harry has with Dumbledore in HBP might invalidate that assumption."

I felt this way at the end of Ootp, that voldemort would be destroyed but Tom Riddle would still exist, now I'm not so sure.

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Tom Riddle is Voldemort. They are the same person; Voldemort is merely an alter ego for Riddle.

I think you missed my point. Tom became Voldemort, so in essence one could destroy one and leave the remanent of Tom Riddle behind. If you remember way back in COS book2, Dobby refers to Tom and Voldemort as separate people, because he wasn't Lord Volemort at that point.

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Yeah, but conversations between Harry and Albus in books five and six make it totally, completely improbable that Harry will kill the soul of Lord Voldemort but save Tom Riddle.

I think you missed my point. Tom became Voldemort, so in essence one could destroy one and leave the remanent of Tom Riddle behind. If you remember way back in COS book2, Dobby refers to Tom and Voldemort as separate people, because he wasn't Lord Volemort at that point. [/b][/quote]
Tom always was Voldemort; Tom is not some innocent character that is misguided, he is pure evil. Surely you read the part where Dumbledore went to pick him up? Did you see how evil that kid was at 11? Voldemort is the true Riddle.

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First of all, if you haven't done so, go to Mugglenet and read the two hour long interview with J.K. Rowling. It was a good interview and she answered a lot of questions. I've noted in my opinions below where J.K. has confirmed something...

R.A.B. is Regulus A. (Alphard?) Black according to J.K. herself. Alphard was the name of the uncle that had willed a lot of money to Sirius. In OotP in the Noble and Most Ancient House of Black chapter there was a heavy gold locket in one of the cabinets they cleaned out that could be the locket that R.A.B. stole from the sea side cave. Expect Harry to go back to 12 Grimauld Place to find it. Either Kreacher saved it, being an heirloom of Slitherin, or Mundungus stole it and sold it. Also, as Dumbledore is gone, the house is no longer hidden. Expect an encounter with Bellatrix, Narcissa, or even Snape there.

J.K. Rowling mentioned another DADA teacher, so expect Harry and the gang to go back to Hogwarts for their last year, regardless of what Harry said. Its the logical place for Harry to look for Horcrux info such as the Ravenclaw/Gryffindor object, and for continued education. Could one still be hidden in the Chamber of Secrets or the Room of Requirement? Hermione will be a big help with her library skills and history knowledge. Harry will need to go back to school to learn all the skills Dumbledore showed in the sea side cave if he expects to find and take the Horcruxes.

Ron and Hermione will be dating. J.K. said so. I think Harry and Ginny will get back together anyway... probably at Bill's wedding. She's too strong a character not to make Harry see that she is going to help him anyway, so they might as well date and enjoy it. Ginny Potter? Hermione Weasley? Luna Longbottom?

Snape is evil. Harry never confided in Dumbledore the way Snape has treated him for years. Dumbledore only got a hint when Snape stopped the Occulamency lessons, but I don't think he ever understood the hatred. Snape was using his status as spy to keep himself out of prison, but once Voldemort came back in GoF, Snape went back to being a loyal Death Eater. Dumbledore and Slughorn talked about murder tearing the soul, being the ultimate evil act. Dumbledore would NEVER order anyone to commit murder as part of any plan.

Before leaving the school for good, though, Snape gave Harry his most important lesson ever. Harry is NOT ready to face Voldemort. Voldemort is the world's most accomplished Legilimens and Snape showed Harry that you not only need to be able to fight without speaking the spells, but you have to be able to hide the spell you are thinking. Harry will have to master Occulamency before the final battle or he won't stand a chance.

Peter Wormtail Pettigrew will save Harry from Fenrir Greyback. Why else give someone that has a life-debt to Harry a silver hand? Maybe they'll be the ones waiting in ambush at 12 Grimauld Place, and Peter will kill Greyback to save Harry and repay his debt.

The diary and the ring are destroyed. The locket and the cup are still in existence and most likely two of the missing Horcruxes. Is there a missing Ravenclaw/Gryffindor object, or as Harry thought could it really be that mouth organ (harmonica) that Voldemort had as a child? Would he have kept that one trophy of childhood and used it for a Horcrux? Would he have used the snake Nagini? After getting back to school I think this will be the first task they'll have.

I think Harry will quit Quidditch and become Hermione-like in his devotion to studying. He needs all of the skills and power he can muster for the final fight. Ron will take over as Captain and be made Head Boy, thus fullfilling the Mirror of Erised's image of Ron's deepest desires.

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Wow John that's...that's alotta information! :blink:

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