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Old 29-June-2006, 09:11 PM
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MSNBC needs a grammar checker! "Effort's"?
When money talks, nobody walks by a grammar text. They's running to where's the money's at.

Unnerstand these here concept's? Its simple in it's simplicity.

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So they want to move into that game, either by building more capabilities into the network, or by shaking down the people who are using the network to get their innovative business idea to customers.
when does capitalism just become plain old greed?
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when does capitalism just become plain old greed?
It's been that since day one, greed is the fundament on which it is founded.
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It's been that since day one, greed is the fundament on which it is founded.
Actually, I'd say it is based on "enlightened self interest." A typical definition of "greed" is

"An excessive desire to acquire or possess more than what one needs or deserves, especially with respect to material wealth."

(emphasis added) In other words, the word "greed" carries unfair and subjective connotations for this statement. There are greedy people in any society, but merely looking out for your own interests is not automatically greed.
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Honestly, that has got to be the most retarded, asinine nitwit thing to do. They want to strangle startups when, in the beginning, they TOO were just startups. The telcoms are getting *paid* for a service. They already have their claws in everything else. Hey, why not charge for bandwidth for local TV stations and radio? Hell, they could convince the local power companies to lower the power on the antenna if the radio station doesn't pony up the extra $1000 a month for "premium" usage. It's unfreaking rediculous, and a pox on the Congressmen that let them do it!

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Agreed 100%, and woe to the Congressmen which makes such decision based upon special interest groups or lobbying - I'll ensure he'll read 50,000 letters a month pertaining to this issue for the rest of his life!
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Count on me for a node in South America.

In fact, such a move by Verizon et al could only impair the US economic productivity, giving an advantage to foreign competitors [governments can always subsidize broadband - many cities in Brazil have free, government- sponsored, broadband]. It doesn´t look like a smart move.
Maybe they can subsidize not only internet, but everything else also. Then they can be super productive, because everything is free.
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Don't worry. The US Senate is on the job. Oops. Worry.

From the Scientific American Sciam Observations Blog, but it's all over the Web, wherever people like to express exasperation with the decision-makers:

Senator Ted Stevens, chairman of the Senate Commerce Committee, explains the Internet:

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I just the other day got, an internet was sent by my staff at 10 o'clock in the morning on Friday and I just got it yesterday. Why?

Because it got tangled up with all these things going on the internet commercially.
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They want to deliver vast amounts of information over the internet. And again, the internet is not something you just dump something on. It's not a truck.

It's a series of tubes.

And if you don't understand those tubes can be filled and if they are filled, when you put your message in, it gets in line and its going to be delayed by anyone that puts into that tube enormous amounts of material, enormous amounts of material.

Now we have a separate Department of Defense internet now, did you know that?

Do you know why?

Because they have to have theirs delivered immediately. They can't afford getting delayed by other people.
Links to original videos and humorous T-shirts (The Internet: a series of tubes) are available at the site.
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Moneygrubbers!

Fortunately, the current business model fell into place quite naturally (open market economics) and is quite stable. I strongly suspect far more companies would loose money under the proposed model. Therefore, those companies backing the proposed model would have quite an uphill fight!
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The advertising blitz has begun; 30-second spot series by the telcoms now airing with authoritative voice-over: "Confused over net-neutrality?...a money grabbing effort by the Silicon Valley giants...just remember, You Pay!...", sponsored by National Cable and Telecommunications Association.
"You pay" seems to be their current mantra, probably destined to "out-Geico" the frequency of their TV ad appearances.
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The advertising blitz has begun; 30-second spot series by the telcoms now airing with authoritative voice-over: "Confused over net-neutrality?...a money grabbing effort by the Silicon Valley giants...just remember, You Pay!...", sponsored by National Cable and Telecommunications Association.
"You pay" seems to be their current mantra, probably destined to "out-Geico" the frequency of their TV ad appearances.
Thanks for the small update sarongsong
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The Federal Communications Commission will set the rules tomorrow governing the auction of $15 billion of public airwaves...AT&T and Verizon Wireless have been eyeing these airwaves for almost a decade, waiting for them to be abandoned by television broadcasters moving to digital programming...the auction is to take place in January...[Google's] efforts to recast the wireless landscape have met fierce opposition from AT&T and Verizon, which worry Google's open network would undermine their businesses...
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