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Old 07-July-2006, 12:18 AM
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I came up with some signature tags someone might want to use -- some I remember seeing somewhere and a couple I just made up. Does anyone have any favorites to contribute they're not saving for themselves?

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"I vow to eliminate procrastination from my life -- starting next week."

"I hate indecision -- well maybe not hate, but I don't like it -- well sometimes it's okay -- maybe."

"Why is it people ask dumb rhetorical questions?"

"I've told you a million times, don't exaggerate." (I've seen this one a trillion times.)

"Seeing all the alcoholics in our society is enough to drive one to drink."

"I hate it when people add unnecessary neverending repetitive redundant reiterative additional unneeded adjectives to what they're saying."

"How can we make the world better? Kill all those who believe violence solves anything."

"I believe that being a skeptic frees me from needing beliefs."

(And a serious one that should be included in almost every ATM or CT response.)
"Never mind what you believe -- I'd like to hear what you know, and how you know it."
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Old 07-July-2006, 12:45 AM
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If your making direct quotes, you need to give credit to someone. Drop the quote into Google and find an origin.

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If your making direct quotes, you need to give credit to someone. Drop the quote into Google and find an origin.
Actually none of them were direct quotes. Some were paraphrasing of something I had heard before. I just used the quotes to separate them from my other comments. Did I violate a forum rule by using quotes in that manner?

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Actually none of them were direct quotes. Some were paraphrasing of something I had heard before. I just used the quotes to separate them from my other comments. Did I violate a forum rule by using quotes in that manner?

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Not rules, just good manners. I'm kidding, just make not of it next time.

I expect to see some good Einstein quotes soon...If not I will put some up.

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4. Copyright

Do not post copyrighted material here. This is very serious. It is within the law to post small, relevant quotes, but not whole passages from newspapers, magazines, books, etc. If you do, the post will be deleted, and you will be warned. Do it twice and you will be banned. If you want to reference material somewhere else on the web, give a brief summary and link to the rest. People can go take a look at what you're talking about and then return to discuss it further.
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Not rules, just good manners. I'm kidding, just make not of it next time.

I expect to see some good Einstein quotes soon...If not I will put some up.

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I appreciate your calling attention to this because I was actually misusing punctuation usage rules of English. Since I wasn't directly quoting, I shouldn't have used quotation marks, but maybe brackets or something. Thanks.

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A lie gets halfway around the world before the truth has a chance to get its pants on. ~Sir Winston Churchill

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Lack of will power has caused more failure than lack of intelligence or ability. ~Flower A. Newhouse

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I appreciate your calling attention to this because I was actually misusing punctuation usage rules of English. Since I wasn't directly quoting, I shouldn't have used quotation marks, but maybe brackets or something. Thanks.
If you're using it as "this is what I'm saying," you still use quotation marks. And no, you shouldn't've used brackets.
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There are three types of people in the world: those who can count, and those who can't.
There are two types of people in the world - those that divide everything into two types, and those that don't.
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If you're using it as "this is what I'm saying," you still use quotation marks. And no, you shouldn't've used brackets.
When it comes to this kind of thing, your about the last person I will argue with, but wouldn't saying that mean that everything I put into my own words be quoted? I thought the point behind quotes was to acknowledge what another person, or you have said at a earlier date, but not you in the present time?
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When it comes to this kind of thing, your about the last person I will argue with, but wouldn't saying that mean that everything I put into my own words be quoted? I thought the point behind quotes was to acknowledge what another person, or you have said at a earlier date, but not you in the present time?
But you're (note spelling!) using it as a thing to be quoted, not just talking.
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Hoo boy!! Looks like I opened up a bit of a "can o' worms" with the quotation marks. I actually worked for a decade as a writer and editor, so I got out my old GPO Style Manual and looked up the quotation rules. Dragon Star was right when he said that I broke no rules except possibly one of manners, meaning that, if my quotes were direct, I should have credited them. They weren't, so I hadn't, and then he acknowledged that. His concern was one that is common for this forum -- if you quote someone, list the source.

Quotes can be used as emphasis, or just to separate a passage for clarity (as I was doing). The Style Manual rules are really pretty loose on their use.

And about "shouldn't've"? Wow, that's a good one. I couldn't find anything in the manual that covered double contractions. It looks a little weird but hey, my rule of thumb in such a case was always that if it was conversationally readable that way, use it.

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Quotes can be used as emphasis, or just to separate a passage for clarity (as I was doing). The Style Manual rules are really pretty loose on their use.
Your style manual permits quotation marks for emphasis? Get a new style manual, man--that's wrong. Italics, yes. Bold, yes. Caps, yes. Underlining, yes. But not emphasis; never emphasis.

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And about "shouldn't've"? Wow, that's a good one. I couldn't find anything in the manual that covered double contractions. It looks a little weird but hey, my rule of thumb in such a case was always that if it was conversationally readable that way, use it.
People use it in speech all the time. What most people use in writing is "shouldn't of," and that's clearly wrong, because that's not what you mean. What you are saying is "shouldn't have," thus "shouldn't've."
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Your style manual permits quotation marks for emphasis? Get a new style manual, man--that's wrong. Italics, yes. Bold, yes. Caps, yes. Underlining, yes. But not emphasis; never emphasis.
Gillian, I bow to your more current knowledge of the Style Manual, which does not mention emphasis in the online copy. Mine did, but with the added comment that its usage in that regard should be kept to a minimum. Guess it's time to get rid of my old copy. Thanks for the clarification.

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Your style manual permits quotation marks for emphasis? Get a new style manual, man--that's wrong. Italics, y