Agreed. Of course you can never make a meaningful "innocent lives saved" statistic, as in many cases you cannot prove you would have been killed if you didn't have a gun.

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You also cannot make a far more meaningful comparison of innocent lives taken/saved per capita where guns are involved vs innocent lives taken/saved per capita where guns aren't involved.

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- Moose's one-line review.

"your going to regret that one. You are now a colonoscope...
- Chrissy, corrupting PraedSt's wish.

Uh, Sanity: If someone really wants to invade your home, he/she merely need to drive through your front door or front window, as appropriate, then either shoot you or steal whatever they wish.

I pray to God that such never happens, and if I ever know about the who, then I'll investigate...

Bottom line - no one's safe. Get a personal security team if you want security. You'll have to pay for it, though.

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I am Mugs, of the Alien clan of Usa, Nordamerica, a Terran, of Sol. A human.

Whoever says "perception is reality" is daft. It's merely an abstraction, and often not a very good one.

Personally, I think loud guns are more effective, particularly when they're pointed in the right direction.

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I am Mugs, of the Alien clan of Usa, Nordamerica, a Terran, of Sol. A human.

Whoever says "perception is reality" is daft. It's merely an abstraction, and often not a very good one.

In most municipalities that's not a requirement for a ruling of self-defense if you shoot an intruder in your domicile. In those municipalities, the rate of breaking and entering is generally significantly lower than it is among municipalities which tend to criminalizing protecting life, limb, or property.

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I am Mugs, of the Alien clan of Usa, Nordamerica, a Terran, of Sol. A human.

Whoever says "perception is reality" is daft. It's merely an abstraction, and often not a very good one.

Bad News!

A relative's home was burglarized last week. They live in a gated community with 'real' 24-hour/day guards on duty, and limited access to the community. Furthermore, their home has decorative but functional iron gates and windows, along with an alarm system that they use properly. And, of course good quality locks are also used.

This (these) burglars were so determined to get in, that they simply ripped out the iron gate on the front door, and rammed the door in (obviously with a vehicle or power tools). They had obviously cased the neighborhood to determine patterns of comings and goings on the block. How they got in to case the neighborhood in the first place is beyond me.

I still don't have the details on how or if they disabled the alarm system.

Point: If a burglar wants to steal your stuff bad enough, maybe there isn't a whole lot you can do.

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This Is What Home-Owner's Insurance Is FOR ...

Lock your Place Down Liike a Fortress ...

But, Have a Back-Up Plan, Juust in Case The Burglar Briings his Own Private Army!

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