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Old 30-October-2006, 02:08 PM
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[rich Jamaican accent] Gnomon, you dooen't need to reset your sundiaal [/]
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Old 30-October-2006, 03:38 PM
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I looked at CONFIG.SYS (which is the main configuration file for OS/2, more critical than it was for DOS), and found the string that determines the dates for the time changes. It was fairly easy to figure out, so I can edit it and I should be set for the new rules.

Now I need to look through the Windows registry to find the equivalent string. I think I've seen it before but I don't think it will be as easy to understand and edit as the OS/2 string was. And I'm not sure just where it is in Linux.

Something I expect to see Real Soon Now will be a small program that will modify the daylight time registry entry for you. Of course you'll have to run it after every reinstall of Windows ...
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Old 30-October-2006, 03:47 PM
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The darn thing is to begin here this week. As a night creature I can only hate it.
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Old 30-October-2006, 05:54 PM
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[rich Jamaican accent] Gnomon, you dooen't need to reset your sundiaal [/]
*groans*

Couldn't he just rotate the numbers by 15 degrees?
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Old 30-October-2006, 05:56 PM
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I looked at CONFIG.SYS (which is the main configuration file for OS/2, more critical than it was for DOS), and found the string that determines the dates for the time changes. It was fairly easy to figure out, so I can edit it and I should be set for the new rules.

Now I need to look through the Windows registry to find the equivalent string. I think I've seen it before but I don't think it will be as easy to understand and edit as the OS/2 string was. And I'm not sure just where it is in Linux.

Something I expect to see Real Soon Now will be a small program that will modify the daylight time registry entry for you. Of course you'll have to run it after every reinstall of Windows ...
I don't think you'll have to go to all that trouble. Undoubtedly Windows Update will provide a patch. It would hardly do for MS to make every user go diddling around in the Registry.
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Old 30-October-2006, 06:29 PM
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I don't think you'll have to go to all that trouble. Undoubtedly Windows Update will provide a patch. It would hardly do for MS to make every user go diddling around in the Registry.
I've searched through the Windows XP Pro registry and could not find it. I'll have to keep looking. I fear that it may now be hidden in a DLL and only Windows Update will take care of the problem.
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Old 30-October-2006, 08:13 PM
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A google turned it up. See here:

http://www.microsoft.com/windows/timezone/dst2007.mspx

There will be a patch for Windows XP SP2. If you don't have or want that, here is information on changing the DST settings (I think this applies in 2000 and XP SP1:

http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=914387
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Old 30-October-2006, 11:05 PM
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Well, it was actually starting to getting a bit light when I came in this morning, and now that I'm about to go home it still is. So at this point no DST is actually a little better, although as Gillianren points out in a few weeks it won't matter.
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Old 31-October-2006, 10:53 AM
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The funny thing about DST is that it has never been proven to save anything at all. However, it does cause a small but statistically significant increase in traffic accidents twice a year. Probably because for commuters light conditions changed substantially 'overnight'. So DST has more negative than positive effects, I think.
I've seen studies that show that the changeover to standard time correlates with fewer morning traffic accidents, which was used to promote the idea that people are sleep-deprived, and the extra hour helps with that. The decrease returned to the average over the course of a week. Similarly, there was an increase when the switchover to DST occurred, which decayed to normal over the week.
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Old 31-October-2006, 10:57 AM
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I don't understand why it ruffles so many feathers. Sure it's a hassle 2x per year, but no big really; and most people it helps rather than hurts. I mean, daylight is a good thing right?

And to those that think this "The last thing we need in the summer is more sunlight." It's not actually more sunlight, it's just when we get to use it.
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Old 31-October-2006, 03:49 PM
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How can they call it "daylight saving?" You don't save anything! If you truly did save daylight, then you could stockpile it when the days were long and use it when the days started getting shorter.

Now that's a plan!

Someone suggested making a monthly 10 minutes change rather than a twice a year hourly one... add 10 minutes/month for six months, then take back 10 minutes per month for the next six. It keeps things closer to normal rhythms and makes it easier to adjust.

Of course, I wouldn't envy the employees at the local clock or watch shops.
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Someone suggested making a monthly 10 minutes change rather than a twice a year hourly one... add 10 minutes/month for six months, then take back 10 minutes per month for the next six. It keeps things closer to normal rhythms and makes it easier to adjust.

Of course, I wouldn't envy the employees at the local clock or watch shops.
Too complicated.

The Swedes tried something in a similar vein when changing from the Julian to Gregorian calendars. Instead of adjusting all at once, they'd lose the days by not putting in Feb 29th on leap years, so there would be no "missing" days.

It failed pretty spectacularly. http://www.tondering.dk/claus/cal/node3.html (scroll down to the note at the end of 2.2.4)
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I like the idea of a country failing so spectacularly in solving a problem that they have to have a February 30th to fix the resulting mess before they can even begin to solve the original problem.
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I like the idea of a country failing so spectacularly in solving a problem that they have to have a February 30th to fix the resulting mess before they can even begin to solve the original problem.
The last year of the old Roman calendar had something like 445 days.
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The last year of the old Roman calendar had something like 445 days.
Wow --- how'd you like to have been born on February 108th?
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Ooh! Tog! Thanks, you reminded me of a clock I completely forgot to update: my analog wall clock.
I did that once I'd decided to kill an hour or so based on my analog wall clock. I looked at my cell phone clock about 20 minutes later, and went and made the darn wall clock right. Then I found something else to do for 1.5 hours.
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I don't understand why it ruffles so many feathers. Sure it's a hassle 2x per year, but no big really; and most people it helps rather than hurts. I mean, daylight is a good thing right?
Changing schedules makes perfect sense. Sun comes up earlier in summer, why not get up earlier?

It is changing the clock instead of schedule that is so idiotic. DST makes about as much sense as switching from Farenheit to Celsius twice a year.*




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hahah,

in reality it's much easier to change the time, my opinion only, because work schedule and all. can you imagine people at work asking, "now do we come in at 9 or 10 next week?"
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