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Old 25-January-2007, 05:24 AM
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A chili is a pepper.

Chili is the name of a dish.

Chile is a political subdivision.

Chilly is a state of being cool.

And the willies is that tingly spine feeling, as in something gross giving you the willies.
Nice information farmerjumperdon.



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Old 25-January-2007, 12:23 PM
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while a turnip is female.


ever read this The Awful German Language - Mark Twain?
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Old 25-January-2007, 02:24 PM
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while a turnip is female.


ever read this The Awful German Language - Mark Twain?
I had not seen that before. Superb.

I think he missed one, though. From Swiss-German:
Vierwaldstätteseedampfschifffahrtsgesellschaftsobe rkapitänstellverträter
(deputy senior captain of a Lake Lucerne steam-shipping company).
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Old 25-January-2007, 02:27 PM
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Hmm... that was suposed to be one word, but I think the software can't handle it: the gap was not in my text.
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Old 25-January-2007, 03:07 PM
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i've seen that one, but it was the hat of the captain....
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Old 26-January-2007, 01:50 PM
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One of the most irritating language things ever for me (in English) is the sentence type "I'm ___, aren't I?". How can the same subject get two different verb conjugations in the same sentence?

You wouldn't say "I are ___" or "Are I ___?", or even "I aren't ___", so why would you switch from "am" to "are" only for the negative form at the end of that kind of sentence?

Fortunately, people don't do this to other similarly constructed sentences. There's no "She is ___, aren't she?" or "We are ___, isn't we?". So it looks as if the problem is just a desperate contortion to get around the lack of a contraction for "am not" for those who figure we don't have one, or, for those who figure we do, to arbitarilly avoid using it because it's "ain't".

OK, fine... don't say "ain't" for "am not". I understand. But use an alternative that makes some SENSE, people! There are plenty of other choices...
"I'm ___, am I not?"
"So I'm ___, am I?"
"I'm ___, right/eh/huh?"
"That means I'm ___, doesn't it?"
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Old 26-January-2007, 03:11 PM
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alle ist klar. aber du wirst mit mein Deutch enttäuschen sein.


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nicht perfekt, aber man versteht genau, was gemeint ist! That´s the good message. The bad message is that you will have to start learning Finnish if you give up learning German (Hungarian could be an alternative).
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Old 26-January-2007, 03:24 PM
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One of the most irritating language things ever for me (in English) is the sentence type "I'm ___, aren't I?". How can the same subject get two different verb conjugations in the same sentence?
Dictionary.com says that the "aren't" in "aren't I" is actually a contraction of "am not" rather than a contraction of "are not" - one that just happens to look and sound just like the contraction of "are not."

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The social unacceptability of ain't, the historical contraction of am not, has created a gap in the pattern of verbal contractions. I'm not, the alternative to I ain't, has no corresponding interrogative form except ain't I. In questions, ain't I is often avoided by the use of AREN'T I: I'm right, aren't I? Aren't I on the list? This AREN'T is simply a different outcome of the same historical development that yielded ain't, but the fact that it is spelled and pronounced like the contraction of are not (as in You are staying, aren't you?) apparently gives it, for some, an acceptability that ain't lacks. The use of AREN'T I is objected to by others because a declarative counterpart, I AREN'T, does not exist. Many speakers, however, prefer AREN'T I to the uncontracted, rather formal am I not. See also AIN'T, CONTRACTION.
Oh, that's nice. I went to all the trouble of putting italic codes in that quote where appropriate, and this BB software automatically italicizes everything in a quote block! Sheesh!
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Old 26-January-2007, 03:28 PM
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Also sprach Zarathustra!

I've always been amused by "das Mädchen". Yup, it's logical that a young girl would be neuter case.

yes, and all diminutives ask for "das", and (almost) all words wih ending -ung ask for "die", e.g., die Wohnung (the flat), die Sendung (the broadcasting), etc. That´s easy, but it´s not easy to understand why "most of all" transforms into "almost" instead of "allmost" or "pronounce" into "pronunciation", etc
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Old 26-January-2007, 03:58 PM
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Dictionary.com says that the "aren't" in "aren't I" is actually a contraction of "am not" rather than a contraction of "are not" - one that just happens to look and sound just like the contraction of "are not."



Oh, that's nice. I went to all the trouble of putting italic codes in that quote where appropriate, and this BB software automatically italicizes everything in a quote block! Sheesh!
Or you could use the modern urban equivalent: "innit" !
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Old 26-January-2007, 04:02 PM
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Also sprach Zarathustra!
What a fine piece of music. It reminds me of a film I once saw...
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Old 26-January-2007, 05:25 PM
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I thought chilli's were red hurtie eating things
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Old 26-January-2007, 06:52 PM
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I thought chilli's were red hurtie eating things
Some chiles are red,some are green,some are yellow.

I've noticed that in the last few years that in cookbooks & cooking shows that people are advised to wear gloves while chopping chiles.I can see some poor soul,eager to try a chile dish for the 1st time,seeing that & thinking "Gloves?!? Why would I want to eat something that I have to handle like like it's toxic waste???"

I've chopped tons of jalapeños,habañeros,pequins,you name it & never worn gloves.Of course if you rub your eyes after chopping without washing your hands 1st I can guarantee you'll remember to wash your hands before touching any sensitive part of your body.
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Old 26-January-2007, 07:05 PM
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I thought chilli's were red hurtie eating things
Again, I had thought about the cultural/linguistic difference between the meanings of chilli (i've seen it spelled with both one L or 2, I use two) and the latin-language meaning of chili, or chile, but didn't think it would be an issue. As usual, I was wrong.

You can walk into amlost any of the restrants around here and order a bowl of "chilli". You will NOT recieve a bowl of hot peppers. You will instead get a bowl of ground-beef (typically) stew with beans, onions, maybe cheese, and really whatever else you want to throw in. It's like a sloppy joe, only not on break, with more veggies, and not so tangy.

My point in my OP was that, to me (using that definition for chilli), saying "cilli soup" is like saying "cheeseburger sandwich".

Edit: oh, interesting side-note. As someone else mentioned, the dictionary confirms all three spellings (chile,chili, and chilli) as correct, but none of the definitions describe the dish i'm talking about. I think that's interesting because everywhere I've ever been (which is only in the US) that doesn't have "chilli soup" offered at most of the restrants, and they all call it chilli/chili
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Old 26-January-2007, 08:51 PM
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What you're desribing Fazor is "chili con carne",which itself is a misnomer if it has beans in it.Technically it's a stew,the most basic version having just chiles & meat.

We take our chili very seriously here in the southwest,with high-dollar competitions & heated (pun intended) debates about ingredients.

The National Fiery Foods Show is held every year in Albuquerque.They tried moving it to San Francisco one year because the promoters felt that New Mexico was too much of a backwater & it almost bankrupted them,SF's not known for it's Mexican food.

And don't EVER insult a Texan's chili,they have guns.
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Old 26-January-2007, 09:36 PM
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Yeah. But I hesitated to use "chili con carne" 'caus from my spanish-class days, that's actually a seperate dish. Plus, here in the midwest, us "yankee sissies" don't always even use "chiles" in our chilli. So I guess that'd make it a total misnomer, as it's just stew with ground beef instead of beefstrips.

(yes, I was determined to use all three spellings in the same post.)
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Old 26-January-2007, 10:42 PM
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One of the most irritating language things ever for me (in English) is the sentence type "I'm ___, aren't I?". How can the same subject get two different verb conjugations in the same sentence?
Notice that the first clause is declarative, but the second is interrogative (and negative).

Some languages have special interrogative conjugations. In Welsh, every verb has a separate interrogative conjugation.

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Like the "t" in "often". Originally, it was silent, yet the word is pronounced with the "t" enunciated more often than not.
Originally, it was pronounced. Then it became silent, and then some purists noticed no one was pronouncing it, and decided that it must be pronounced again.
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Old 26-January-2007, 11:29 PM