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Old 25-January-2007, 05:24 AM
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A chili is a pepper.

Chili is the name of a dish.

Chile is a political subdivision.

Chilly is a state of being cool.

And the willies is that tingly spine feeling, as in something gross giving you the willies.
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while a turnip is female.


ever read this The Awful German Language - Mark Twain?
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while a turnip is female.


ever read this The Awful German Language - Mark Twain?
I had not seen that before. Superb.

I think he missed one, though. From Swiss-German:
Vierwaldstätteseedampfschifffahrtsgesellschaftsobe rkapitänstellverträter
(deputy senior captain of a Lake Lucerne steam-shipping company).
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Hmm... that was suposed to be one word, but I think the software can't handle it: the gap was not in my text.
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i've seen that one, but it was the hat of the captain....
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One of the most irritating language things ever for me (in English) is the sentence type "I'm ___, aren't I?". How can the same subject get two different verb conjugations in the same sentence?

You wouldn't say "I are ___" or "Are I ___?", or even "I aren't ___", so why would you switch from "am" to "are" only for the negative form at the end of that kind of sentence?

Fortunately, people don't do this to other similarly constructed sentences. There's no "She is ___, aren't she?" or "We are ___, isn't we?". So it looks as if the problem is just a desperate contortion to get around the lack of a contraction for "am not" for those who figure we don't have one, or, for those who figure we do, to arbitarilly avoid using it because it's "ain't".

OK, fine... don't say "ain't" for "am not". I understand. But use an alternative that makes some SENSE, people! There are plenty of other choices...
"I'm ___, am I not?"
"So I'm ___, am I?"
"I'm ___, right/eh/huh?"
"That means I'm ___, doesn't it?"
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alle ist klar. aber du wirst mit mein Deutch enttäuschen sein.


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nicht perfekt, aber man versteht genau, was gemeint ist! That´s the good message. The bad message is that you will have to start learning Finnish if you give up learning German (Hungarian could be an alternative).
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One of the most irritating language things ever for me (in English) is the sentence type "I'm ___, aren't I?". How can the same subject get two different verb conjugations in the same sentence?
Dictionary.com says that the "aren't" in "aren't I" is actually a contraction of "am not" rather than a contraction of "are not" - one that just happens to look and sound just like the contraction of "are not."

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The social unacceptability of ain't, the historical contraction of am not, has created a gap in the pattern of verbal contractions. I'm not, the alternative to I ain't, has no corresponding interrogative form except ain't I. In questions, ain't I is often avoided by the use of AREN'T I: I'm right, aren't I? Aren't I on the list? This AREN'T is simply a different outcome of the same historical development that yielded ain't, but the fact that it is spelled and pronounced like the contraction of are not (as in You are staying, aren't you?) apparently gives it, for some, an acceptability that ain't lacks. The use of AREN'T I is objected to by others because a declarative counterpart, I AREN'T, does not exist. Many speakers, however, prefer AREN'T I to the uncontracted, rather formal am I not. See also AIN'T, CONTRACTION.
Oh, that's nice. I went to all the trouble of putting italic codes in that quote where appropriate, and this BB software automatically italicizes everything in a quote block! Sheesh!
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I've always been amused by "das Mädchen". Yup, it's logical that a young girl would be neuter case.

yes, and all diminutives ask for "das", and (almost) all words wih ending -ung ask for "die", e.g., die Wohnung (the flat), die Sendung (the broadcasting), etc. That´s easy, but it´s not easy to understand why "most of all" transforms into "almost" instead of "allmost" or "pronounce" into "pronunciation", etc
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Dictionary.com says that the "aren't" in "aren't I" is actually a contraction of "am not" rather than a contraction of "are not" - one that just happens to look and sound just like the contraction of "are not."



Oh, that's nice. I went to all the trouble of putting italic codes in that quote where appropriate, and this BB software automatically italicizes everything in a quote block! Sheesh!
Or you could use the modern urban equivalent: "innit" !
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What a fine piece of music. It reminds me of a film I once saw...
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I thought chilli's were red hurtie eating things
Some chiles are red,some are green,some are yellow.

I've noticed that in the last few years that in cookbooks & cooking shows that people are advised to wear gloves while chopping chiles.I can see some poor soul,eager to try a chile dish for the 1st time,seeing that & thinking "Gloves?!? Why would I want to eat something that I have to handle like like it's toxic waste???"

I've chopped tons of jalapeños,habañeros,pequins,you name it & never worn gloves.Of course if you rub your eyes after chopping without washing your hands 1st I can guarantee you'll remember to wash your hands before touching any sensitive part of your body.
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I thought chilli's were red hurtie eating things
Again, I had thought about the cultural/linguistic difference between the meanings of chilli (i've seen it spelled with both one L or 2, I use two) and the latin-language meaning of chili, or chile, but didn't think it would be an issue. As usual, I was wrong.

You can walk into amlost any of the restrants around here and order a bowl of "chilli". You will NOT recieve a bowl of hot peppers. You will instead get a bowl of ground-beef (typically) stew with beans, onions, maybe cheese, and really whatever else you want to throw in. It's like a sloppy joe, only not on break, with more veggies, and not so tangy.

My point in my OP was that, to me (using that definition for chilli), saying "cilli soup" is like saying "cheeseburger sandwich".

Edit: oh, interesting side-note. As someone else mentioned, the dictionary confirms all three spellings (chile,chili, and chilli) as correct, but none of the definitions describe the dish i'm talking about. I think that's interesting because everywhere I've ever been (which is only in the US) that doesn't have "chilli soup" offered at most of the restrants, and they all call it chilli/chili
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What you're desribing Fazor is "chili con carne",which itself is a misnomer if it has beans in it.Technically it's a stew,the most basic version having just chiles & meat.

We take our chili very seriously here in the southwest,with high-dollar competitions & heated (pun intended) debates about ingredients.

The National Fiery Foods Show is held every year in Albuquerque.They tried moving it to San Francisco one year because the promoters felt that New Mexico was too much of a backwater & it almost bankrupted them,SF's not known for it's Mexican food.

And don't EVER insult a Texan's chili,they have guns.
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Yeah. But I hesitated to use "chili con carne" 'caus from my spanish-class days, that's actually a seperate dish. Plus, here in the midwest, us "yankee sissies" don't always even use "chiles" in our chilli. So I guess that'd make it a total misnomer, as it's just stew with ground beef instead of beefstrips.

(yes, I was determined to use all three spellings in the same post.)
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One of the most irritating language things ever for me (in English) is the sentence type "I'm ___, aren't I?". How can the same subject get two different verb conjugations in the same sentence?
Notice that the first clause is declarative, but the second is interrogative (and negative).

Some languages have special interrogative conjugations. In Welsh, every verb has a separate interrogative conjugation.

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Like the "t" in "often". Originally, it was silent, yet the word is pronounced with the "t" enunciated more often than not.
Originally, it was pronounced. Then it became silent, and then some purists noticed no one was pronouncing it, and decided that it must be pronounced again.
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Some chiles are red,some are green,some are yellow.
Then there are those nice orange chiles that look like the bonnets worn by certain denizens of Scotland.

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I've noticed that in the last few years that in cookbooks & cooking shows that people are advised to wear gloves while chopping chiles.I can see some poor soul,eager to try a chile dish for the 1st time,seeing that & thinking "Gloves?!? Why would I want to eat something that I have to handle like like it's toxic waste???"

I've chopped tons of jalapeños,habañeros,pequins,you name it & never worn gloves.Of course if you rub your eyes after chopping without washing your hands 1st I can guarantee you'll remember to wash your hands before touching any sensitive part of your body.
Same here re no gloves. But the thorough washing of the hands is an absolute necessity. Seems the lighter one's skin the greater the effect. One girlfriend who was a redhead happened to brush her hand against a cheek (under the eye) after helping prepare some habeneros. She wound up with the equivalent of a burned patch of skin in the contact area.

BTW, ever check the ingredients of Cholula hot sauce? It has piquins! BTW, that's how they spell "pequins" on the label. I used to grow those beauties outdoors and indoors. Small but powerful!

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Then there are those nice orange chiles that look like the bonnets worn by certain denizens of Scotland.

Same here re no gloves. But the thorough washing of the hands is an absolute necessity. Seems the lighter one's skin the greater the effect. One girlfriend who was a redhead happened to brush her hand against a cheek (under the eye) after helping prepare some habeneros. She wound up with the equivalent of a burned patch of skin in the contact area.

BTW, ever check the ingredients of Cholula hot sauce? It has piquins! BTW, that's how they spell "pequins" on the label. I used to grow those beauties outdoors and indoors. Small but powerful!

My youngest brother is married to a Mexican lady,they live in Nuevo Laredo & Cholula is a staple in their house.When I vist they know I have to have my eggs,chorizo,black beans & the wonderful fresh corn tortillas they have delivered every morning,all drenched in Cholula,for breakfast.
After a breakfast like that,who could go back to Rice Crispies?
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"Gloves?!? Why would I want to eat something that I have to handle like like it's toxic waste???"
I'd be right there with them. In fact I already have been for years before ever hearing about the gloves. Most peppers ARE toxic waste, beyond unfit for human consumption.
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What a fine piece of music.
Its opening fanfare is well-known, but what a commentary by Strauss at the end as the flutes and violins play a B major chord, while the lower strings play C pizzicato.
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It reminds me of a film I once saw...
Did a fellow named Kubrick have something to do with that?
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I'd be right there with them. In fact I already have been for years before ever hearing about the gloves. Most peppers ARE toxic waste, beyond unfit for human consumption.
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That many more yummy chiles for me and Frantic Freddie!

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My youngest brother is married to a Mexican lady,they live in Nuevo Laredo & Cholula is a staple in their house.When I vist they know I have to have my eggs,chorizo,black beans & the wonderful fresh corn tortillas they have delivered every morning,all drenched in Cholula,for breakfast.
After a breakfast like that,who could go back to Rice Crispies?
No way!

What a feast to start the day!

BTW, I have a recipe for black bean burritos that can't be beat. Very savory and quite hot!

Southwest and Mexican cooking: it's the best!

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I once worked with a fellow from Mexico, and he loved his chi(l)l(i/e)s. We once ate out at a Thai restaurant, and he ordered just about the hottest thing on the menu, but asked them to put extra chi(l)l(i/e)s on it. So, there he was, shovelling this stuff down, and he offered a tiny little slice of chili to anyone who was prepared to try. I was the only one that took him up on his offer, and it was a bit hotter than I expected - it had my eyes watering.

Of course, he dismissed most of the "Mexican" food available in Britain as "tex-mex" (said in a very deprecating tone of voice).

I used really to like spicy Indian food (not a phal or vindaloo, where you can't taste anything, but I would often go for a jhalfrezi), but I found that I could no longer live with the ... erm ... after-effects.
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Now, someone please explain to me what "chili beans" are.
I'm quite sure they are the beans used in making chili, but what
kind of beans are they? Mayocoba? Pinto? Great Northern?
Navy? Whatever happens to be available?

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"chili con carne",which itself is a misnomer if it has beans in it.
Technically it's a stew,the most basic version having just chiles
& meat.
I have often seen chile non carne-- without meat. I'm not sure
I've ever seen it without beans. If you leave out the beans and
the meat, what do you have left? Tomatoes and seasoning, I think.
An essential part of the latter being chilis, of course, but only part.

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As I've heard it, the traditional mantra about Texas-style chili is "heat and meat". Supposedly the beans are a later addition. I likes 'em, my own self.

I don't know what "chili beans" are, specifically, but most chilis I've run into contain pintos or red kidney beans (or both). Some chilis use multiple beans. A recipe I make a lot includes black beans and chick peas (garbanzo beans) along with kidneys. I have a "5-bean (vegetarian) chili" recipe around here too, but it came from a restaurant and makes a huge quantity so I haven't tried it.
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Good!

That many more yummy chiles for me and Frantic Freddie!

*passes the salsa to Mak*

Where to start....

"Chili beans" isn't a term used in the southwest,the beans used in Mexican food are traditionally pintos & black.

Tomatoes are a much later addition to chili.

"Chili con carne" ,stripped of the later ingredients,is just that,meat cooked with chiles.A popular southwestern dish is carne adovada,pork cooked in red chile sauce & the traditional filling for tamales.
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Some grocery stores (all in my experience, but I've only shopped for groceries in certain regions of the USA) sell cans labelled "chilli beans", which is probably where that question comes from. What's in those cans is red kidney beans. If you bought a can of that and a can labelled "red beans" or "kidney beans" or "red kidney beans", you might find that they're slightly different varieties of the species in size or color, or that the sauce/juice they're in has already had some spices or pepper added in the "chilli beans" case or something like that, but basicly they're just red kidney beans, and the two cans are interchangible most or all of the time.
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Some grocery stores (all in my experience, but I've only shopped for groceries in certain regions of the USA) sell cans labelled "chilli beans", which is probably where that question comes from. What's in those cans is red kidney beans. If you bought a can of that and a can labelled "red beans" or "kidney beans" or "red kidney beans", you might find that they're slightly different varieties of the species in size or color, or that the sauce/juice they're in has already had some spices or pepper added in the "chilli beans" case or something like that, but basicly they're just red kidney beans, and the two cans are interchangible most or all of the time.
OK,those....They're for people who want to make some version of chili (and I've seen some weird versions) & don't want to go to the trouble of cooking their own beans.
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