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Old 09-January-2007, 07:05 PM
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Well, during the few minutes of downtime I've had today I've been studying physics and doing research for my high level sociology class, so my brain is effectivly fried. And in said state, I tend to think about random things that often fall into this off-topic babbling catagory. so....

I had a cup of chilli for lunch today, and it got me thinking about how my co-worker always calls it "Chilli soup". Like, "Hm, I feel like having chilli soup for lunch today". Or "I made chilli soup last night".

To me, this seems a bit redundant. Chilli, by the definition I know anyway, *Is* soup--a blend of meats and vegetables served in a tomato base. So that's kinda like saying "beef soup soup". It just strikes me as odd.

So that got me wondering, what are some of the things that you hear during the day that just sound totally rediculous to you? The other classic example is saying "I need to go to the ATM machine" which is effectively saying "I need to go to the Automated Teller Machine Machine". Which would be cool, if there was a machine that would spit out ATMs for your disposal.
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Old 09-January-2007, 07:11 PM
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Although I haven't heard it in a while I used to frequently hear 'pizza pie'.

The one that sends shivers down my spine is 'consensus of opinion'.
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Old 09-January-2007, 07:26 PM
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Dunno. I always thought of chilli as more like stew than soup. Soup is thinner than the chilli I've seen (except in one distasteful case).

And, try on "PIN number" for size. Arrgh...

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Old 09-January-2007, 07:30 PM
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Dunno. I always thought of chilli as more like stew than soup. Soup is thinner than the chilli I've seen (except in one distasteful case).

And, try on "PIN number" for size. Arrgh...

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Yeah, stew would be a better word as soup is thinner as you say. But still seems like a completely unnecessary, and as you pointed out, erronious thing to tack on to the end of the word. Personally, I'm very lazy. I find it odd to say an extra word that really has no utility. Oh well.

As for "PIN number" i'm guilty of that one hehe. But in my defense, it's only a matter of time before the "protect your identity" thing goes so out of hand that we actually have Personal Identification Number Numbers.
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Here's a few:

"an added bonus", "and plus", "end result", "free gift", "future plans", "hot water heater", "unconfirmed rumor", "killed him dead", "past history", "safe haven"

From Wikipedia: Redundancy (language)
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An obscure one from my EMT days: there is a emergency medical devices called MAST for Military (or Medical) Anti-Shock Trousers. Yet, you would constantly here doctors and EMTs say "MAST Trousers".
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All good examples so far. But I didnt intend to limit it to redundant terms. There's just certian words and phrases that bother me. For instance, a friend of mine has family from Wisconsin. They call water foutains "bubblers" and stop lights "stop and go lights". Not that they are wrong and I am right, its just different (and yet somehow annoying). The other obvious one is "soda" (i say pop). but IIRC that discussion has been had before so i wanted to avoid it.
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People actually say 'trousers' I thought only Europeans said that.
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To me, this seems a bit redundant. Chilli, by the definition I know anyway, *Is* soup--a blend of meats and vegetables served in a tomato base. So that's kinda like saying "beef soup soup". It just strikes me as odd.
Am I missing something? Isn't chilli, well, a chilli? You know, red or green hot tasting plant? Therefore, chilli soup makes perfect sense to me (although it doesn't sound very tasty).
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Old 09-January-2007, 09:13 PM
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Am I missing something? Isn't chilli, well, a chilli? You know, red or green hot tasting plant? Therefore, chilli soup makes perfect sense to me (although it doesn't sound very tasty).
I was waiting for that to pop up; almost addressed it in my OP but as i said i'm lazy. Anyway, I'm aware that in many countries, a "chilie" is a pepper. But in the states, "chilli" is a thick stew mostly meat and tomato base, with miscelanious extra ingrediants for taste. I believe it gets its name based on the fact that hot peppers are generally used, as it's a stew that is typically served spicey.

edit: oh, just as an aside, some of the guys in my Academy class used mace/pepper spray in thier chilli to give it a "kick". For those not familiar with the amican dish, american men have a tendancy to try to make thier chilli the spiciest and apparently you are more of a man if you like urs insanely spicey.
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The dish is spelled "chili." The pepper is spelled "chile." (Note the single "l." Since they're both Spanish words, the double "l" would make them have a totally different sound.)
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"Chili" is usually spelled with only one "L", but "chilli" and "chile"
are acceptable variants. The dish is usually called "chili con carne",
though you can have it without meat in which case it is not con
carne.

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A chili is a pepper.

Chili is the name of a dish.

Chile is a political subdivision.

Chilly is a state of being cool.

And the willies is that tingly spine feeling, as in something gross giving you the willies.
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To the best of my recollection, the only other person I've ever
seen/heard use the term "willies" is Cliff Simak.

The bowl I use as a cereal bowl appears to be technically
called a "chili bowl". The profile looks about like this:


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ATM Machine always gets me.

People who say "all's I'm saying is" get to me.

People who say "aks" instead of "ask" need to read more.
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Is it an Australian term? An ATM is an Automatic Teller Machine .. the hole in the wall where money comes out.
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Around here they're called "maters". Rhymes with "taters".

Re the spicy stew, in the area of Arizona where I honed my art and perfected the dish, it's spelled chile.



Then there's the situation where the ATM requires you to enter your PIN number...
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people who have to spell things in phonetics get me, even afte 3 and 1/2 years at a call center a can not get use to it.
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"an added bonus"
Well, that one might be allowable. "Bonus" is a Latin adjective, often taken substantively to mean "good thing." So the phrase "added bonus" reads as "an added good thing." Seems correct to me.
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