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Old 15-February-2007, 11:53 AM
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Default What's killing the bees?

Is it space based radar? Global mapping being done by imaging radars.
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Old 15-February-2007, 03:08 PM
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Doesn't seem to be a single pathegen. What I've read seems to indicate something is mucking up their immune system. Half the colonies alive four years ago are gone!
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Could be parasitic too.
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Old 15-February-2007, 04:47 PM
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Bees seem to suffer as many diseases as humans, see: http://www.bbka.org.uk/articles/bee_diseases.php

Inc. "American Foul Brood disease".

And "European Foul Brood disease" too!

What makes you ask?

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Old 15-February-2007, 05:36 PM
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This is an article from Science News that is mostly about using solitary bees as an alternative pollinator for agriculture, because of the declines in bee populations, but it does talk a little about the decline.
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The 2-million–plus honeybee colonies traveling the farm circuit represent a shrinking labor force. It's down by a third since 1981, according to the USDA's statistics. Pesticide use, Africanized bees, parasites, and diseases have taken their toll. In 2005, California almond growers became the first U.S. farmers since 1922 to get emergency permission to import honeybees from outside the United States.

The new National Research Council report notes a "demonstrably downward" trend not only for honeybees but also for some wild-living pollinators, such as several bumblebees and bats.
This is a 2004 National Geographic article about it. They mention the varroa mite, which I believe has been a problem around here.
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Don't these things occasionally happen naturally? Like with the Irish potato famine?

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"The Famine was due to the appearance of "the Blight" (also known as phytophthora)– the oomycete that almost instantly destroyed the primary food source for the majority of the island's population."

When I lived in California I heard from grape growers that a big blight hit the French grapes in the 19th Century and the French had to import grape vines from California.
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I know what's killing the bees, guys.






It's aspartame.
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I know what's killing the bees, guys.






It's aspartame.
I knew it!
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Actually it's Ursus arctos.

More intelligent than the median Ursus.
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I recall hearing/reading/seeing that the really aggressive species of bees (maybe African?...not sure of the breed) are prevalent in USA. Maybe a 'governmental' plan to wipe out this species has been implemented?
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I recall hearing/reading/seeing that the really aggressive species of bees (maybe African?...not sure of the breed) are prevalent in USA. Maybe a 'governmental' plan to wipe out this species has been implemented?
Whether bears, killer bees, microwaves, or aspartame, it's obviously a honey of a conspiracy!
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I recall hearing/reading/seeing that the really aggressive species of bees (maybe African?...not sure of the breed) are prevalent in USA. Maybe a 'governmental' plan to wipe out this species has been implemented?
Taming africanized bees is pretty easy, really. Especially for commercial apiaries. The africanized queen is removed from the nest, and a new one is introduced from the tamer domestic species. She's introduced in a container with a sugar seal with a small opening. This allows her phermones time to take over the colony before they get to her. If she were simply introduced to the colony without time to woo them, she'd be torn apart as an invader by bees still under the influence of the africanized queen.

So that's not likely to be much of a cause, considering the solution only necessarily kills one bee.
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Taming africanized bees is pretty easy, really. Especially for commercial apiaries. The africanized queen is removed from the nest, and a new one is introduced from the tamer domestic species. She's introduced in a container with a sugar seal with a small opening. This allows her phermones time to take over the colony before they get to her. If she were simply introduced to the colony without time to woo them, she'd be torn apart as an invader by bees still under the influence of the africanized queen.

So that's not likely to be much of a cause, considering the solution only necessarily kills one bee.
Tracking down every queen, in order to bring the species under control, would be difficult.
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I remember a bee die-off a few years ago,my then neighbor had a small hive of wild bees in an old wooden shipping box (our apple & cherry trees really produced that year),then it was gone the next year,when I read about the die-off.

Could this be a cyclical thing?
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Tracking down every queen, in order to bring the species under control, would be difficult.
Commercial apiaries tend to be a little easier to contend with. If they do have multiple queens, at the first signs of aggression, they change them all.

Though, you're right about the wild ones.
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Perhaps they're being abducted?
Maybe they've made their own arrangements and are fleeing the planet in advance of impending catastrophe?
Chemtrails, of course?
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Perhaps they're being abducted?
Maybe they've made their own arrangements and are fleeing the planet in advance of impending catastrophe?
Chemtrails, of course?
Explains the nice gift and the message they left me, "So Long, and Thanks for all the Pollen".
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