Hum,
faster than the Cutty Sark

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`Irony` actually does mean `metal like`...

Strangely enough, I never get tired of formulaic, chliche'd Hollywierd action movies, as long as the fights are cool.

I've just always been a fan of hoplite-style fighting my whole life. Reading LotR as a child, I always imagined myself with a spear and shield at the Gates of Mordor. When D2 hit, I was always a Javazon. Morrowind? Spear-guy. NWN? Spear Weaponmaster. Guild Wars? Paragon I'm glad that this movie is hitting, in that I hope it stimulates some to read about the real conflict, and if not learn some real history (it's rather complicated to work out exactly just what happened...), at least be stimulated enough to explore and interpret for themselves.

However, for myself, I'm just interested in watching some cool phalanx and hoplite fight scenes

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"I have this theory that the Apollo missions were faked when NASA found out that general relativity was wrong because the Earth was expanding due to the Sun's iron core being influenced by magnetic waves from the electric universe after being perturbed by Planet X and thereby causing global warming. Where should I start a thread about this?" ~ ToSeek

"Those are the people that wonder how a thermos knows whether to keep something hot or keep something cold." ~ NeoWatcher

I was just watching the online Ebert & Roeper review. They showed the clip of Xerxes threatening doom to Sparta.

Xerxes was definitely channelling the G'ould.

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I first learned about the Hoplites in history class and how improved technology allowed the Romans to take them down. I've loved military strategy ever since. I even came really close trying for a career as a military officer . I'm consequently a huge fan of RTS games like Command & Conquer.The only problem is that they're built for balance not realism. I wish there was a high-quality true-to-life mainstream simulation I could find easily.

Or at all Good luck. And if you find one, let me know. I'd be interested as well

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"I have this theory that the Apollo missions were faked when NASA found out that general relativity was wrong because the Earth was expanding due to the Sun's iron core being influenced by magnetic waves from the electric universe after being perturbed by Planet X and thereby causing global warming. Where should I start a thread about this?" ~ ToSeek

"Those are the people that wonder how a thermos knows whether to keep something hot or keep something cold." ~ NeoWatcher

me too, though Rome: Total War seems to do a pretty decent job

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There is no dark side of the moon really, as a matter of fact it's all dark - Pink Floyd, The Dark Side Of The Moon

Not as crushed as I was when I found out Captain America had died...

RIP Steve Rogers, 1941- 2007(until they bring him back of course).

Hum,
indeed,

Read more

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`Irony` actually does mean `metal like`...

I am crying for them.

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Hwæt! We Gardena in geardagum,
þeodcyninga, þrym gefrunon,
hu ða æþelingas ellen fremedon.

The Iranian historian is hardly objective himself. Also I think it's hilarious that he wants Unesco to "take measures" against the film makers. Considering the views their president has expressed about mid 20th century history, the Iranians aren't in a position to lecture anyone.

Hum,
while it is possible the historian is speaking for the entire country and/or agrees with president on 20th century history, i don't know.

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`Irony` actually does mean `metal like`...

I doubt the esteemed professor would disagree with the goverments view of history, could be wrong of course(I hope I am actually). Just wanted to bring up a point in response to the article.

Anyway, I'm not too sympathetic for their/his offence. Every time someone mentions the words "insulting the culture of...." as a reason to punish someone I get upset.

Yes, I am holding my breath waiting for the professor to acknowledge the holocaust or condemn his president for denying it.

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Hwæt! We Gardena in geardagum,
þeodcyninga, þrym gefrunon,
hu ða æþelingas ellen fremedon.

Okay, we got the graphic novel from the library yesterday (yay for putting it on reserve a couple of months before the movie came out), and I have to say, while there are some differences between the two (the whole romantic subplot, say), I was astonished at how word-for-word it was in places. Quite a good adaptation, really, as adaptations go.

And, yes, the graphic novel would have been NC-17 if filmed as drawn, though there were exposed breasts in the film but not in the novel.

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Gillian

"Now everyone was giving her that kind of look UFOlogists get when they suddenly say, 'Hey, if you shade your eyes you can see it is just a flock of geese after all.'"

"You can't erase icing."

"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"

I picked it up from the post office an hour ago, looks amazing. I glanced through it and spotted a few images from the movie trailer(or rather the other way around since the comic came first but anyway).

What makes you think that you are in a position to say that "Iranians" are not in a position to lecture anyone? Can you please elaborate on that? As humans we can lecture whoever or when ever. It is up to the individual to listen or not. Are you implying that because of what our president says we can not express our own views??? LOL. Great logic you have there. (I do not agree with our government before you start labelling me an extremist supporter)

Perhaps it may be hilarious that he wants Unesco to take measures against the film makers (Nice sense of humour you got there). Each individual has a right to take certain actions deemed necessary, now if you think that is funny then I think you have displayed a behaviour that resembles ignorance (however Iam sure you are not ignorant...well I do not think that yet but watch this space...heheh). Personally I think that action is unnecessary as opposed to hilarious. (You have failed to look beyond the reason to why he thought his actions were necessary)

I have read some threads about 300 and I must admit I have not seen but I can not help but feel hard done by. Yes there are many ways at looking at the film as many people may just say its a film but from the threads I read and the preview I found some of things offensive and derogative. Yet If everyone had my view this potentially would open a can of worms because to say that this film is offensive then that means 50% of all the other films can be looked at as offensive too i.e. Borat, Braveheart etc So I am in a catch 22 lol. However I would like to mention the fact that there may be movies out there that may offend other countries i.e. England, America etc.... but then again there are lots of films that supports England and America. But you have to ask yourself; has there been a huge film that supports Persia? So far Alexendar and 300 have been made and they are both quite derogative towards Persians (or Iranians). I find that a very convenient coincidence. Also some people say it is just a comic made 10 years ago how could it be politically motivated????? well errr it can because why did they release the film out now??? (for those of you who dont know Iran and America are experience some er..er..technical difficulties at the moment).

Finally I can not believe someone would say this film us educational as it is clearly not because of the inaccuracies. But what many people forget is that there are many uneducated people out there and this film does not help!!!! Also remember most of the text out there that captures the war between the Persian and Spartans (or other Greek factions) is actually written by Greeks!!!! Most of the Persian texts were burned when we were conquered by the Arabs and Mongols.

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Happy No Ruz, welcome to the board.

The reality is, it is just a movie. It does not advocate for the hatred of Persians. It seems like a silly thing to get so upset about. It smacks of hypocrisy to condemn 300 but let the hardliners in Iran (like the President and the Ayatollah) make ignorant and inflammatory comments.

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Hwæt! We Gardena in geardagum,
þeodcyninga, þrym gefrunon,
hu ða æþelingas ellen fremedon.

I would not classify the current Ayatollah as a hardliner, necessarily. But this is politics...

I agree with debateaway that anyone can criticise a film, even president Ahmadinejad.

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"All your bias are belong to us." Ara Pacis
"A witty saying proves nothing." Voltaire

Oh, I too agree that anyone should be able to criticize (or voice any other opinion they have about) a film.

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Hwæt! We Gardena in geardagum,
þeodcyninga, þrym gefrunon,
hu ða æþelingas ellen fremedon.