Since they are making products that are bad for people I really don't care what happens to them when they have to stop pushing their garbage.

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And the "driving on the freeway on a scooter" analogy still holds true because the pilots are sitting in 7 to 30 ton aircraft o' doom and you are running around them in your very own Meatbody, Mark I. Beep, beep.
Trying to make sense of computers, The Error Log.

I guess I didn't make myself clear.
I agree that they make bad products and that we are better of without them, but in the context of this article, they are talking about voluntary measures. Fat chance (pun intended)

In the end, the consumer must have some intelligence, and that aint happnin. (as a whole)
If consumers were conciensious of this, then bad food makers would be advertising more of a "If you're going to choose one, choose ours".

But right now, you only see that going on in alcohol. Probably because consumers, as a whole, are more aware of alcohol effects.

BTW, another point is that it is easier to mass produce and market something with a shelf life. Good foods generally have a short shelf life and end up being local, or regional markets. Add to that, especially for produce, you have a wide variability in quality based on conditions, and that's very hard to market.

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Cars kill thousands of people every year. Should we ban all car companies from advertising?

Yes, junk food is "bad" for you in excess. But it's not inherantly bad. If you remember from a month or two ago, someone died from too much water. ANYTHING taken in excess is bad. But in moderation, "junk" food is fine.

Why is it the company's fault that people don't have a propper diet?

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I'm like one of those idiot savants...well, except for the savant part.

I wouldn't care if banning car ads made the car companies lose money, which was my point.

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And the "driving on the freeway on a scooter" analogy still holds true because the pilots are sitting in 7 to 30 ton aircraft o' doom and you are running around them in your very own Meatbody, Mark I. Beep, beep.
Trying to make sense of computers, The Error Log.

Try to be careful on this one, it could turn political if you get carried away.
I would like to point out the numbers mean nothing to me, not make any statement about immigration.

But:
Census: Immigrants stabilize big-city populations
As opposed to what?
What is the poplulation growth due to immigration outside fo the metro areas?

What about other factors, like?
Without births, the metro area would be losing population.
Without people moving in, the metro area would be losing population.

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I actually just e-mailed my Prof. a link to that article. That's what my last class is before I graduate is all about: Urban Politics. As to the last statement about "without people moving in", that's part of the problem. Not too many people move IN to the city, particularly the slums/ghettos that they're talking about with the immigrant population. They did a poor job of stating exactly what they are talking about, but they're trying to say that the new immigrants are filling the void from the ones that have "moved on up, to the east side and finally gotten a piece of the pie"

Really I found the article quite pointless. It starts out talking about influx immigration filling the void left by "urban sprawl" (but poorly defines what they're talking about) then degenerates into random population facts.

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I'm like one of those idiot savants...well, except for the savant part.

Fruits and healthy snacks should not have to be advertised, they should be a given. On a lot of the kids channels, though, I do see plenty of suggestions for better snacks provided by the actual station. As far as I am concerned McDonald's, Lay's, and Hershey's can advertise all they want. My kids can beg all they want, I am still ultimately in control of what they put in their mouths.

And that's how it should be... Ok, now slap me and wake me up.

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Because positive, healthy thinking doesn't sell newspapers. To do that, they have to incite fear, then hint that if you'll just read the article, they can help you fix the problem.

Must not be working - kids are fatter than ever, today.

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I am Mugs, of the Alien clan of Usa, Nordamerica, a Terran, of Sol. A human.

Whoever says "perception is reality" is daft. It's merely an abstraction, and often not a very good one.

Gene Impacts Obesity Risk
How do they know that the gene is really related, and not some other relationship? For instance, nationality X has genes a,b,c. Nationality X eats more of whatever.
Statistical nothingness.

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It sounds like yet a statistics crapshoot, where they look through all the genes in their sample group and try to find one that matches the trait they're looking at then once such a correlation is found, they publish without trying so see if there's a mechanism relating the gene and the trait, possibly without even looking at a different sample group to see if that same correlation exists.

I've seen that story too many times to be impressed, remember the time they found the gene for homosexuality

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And the "driving on the freeway on a scooter" analogy still holds true because the pilots are sitting in 7 to 30 ton aircraft o' doom and you are running around them in your very own Meatbody, Mark I. Beep, beep.
Trying to make sense of computers, The Error Log.

Yes, actually, we should. A bad thing is BAD, and there's no arguing around it.

Take DiHidrogen Monoxide, for example - it kills thousands each year, and as such, it should be banned, too...

(uh... ahem... those recognizing the term know this in tongue in cheek; those that don't, please Google it. Thanks).

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I am Mugs, of the Alien clan of Usa, Nordamerica, a Terran, of Sol. A human.

Whoever says "perception is reality" is daft. It's merely an abstraction, and often not a very good one.

Kids with head injury apt to have another
Can you say "clumsy kid"?

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Can you say abusive parents?

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And the "driving on the freeway on a scooter" analogy still holds true because the pilots are sitting in 7 to 30 ton aircraft o' doom and you are running around them in your very own Meatbody, Mark I. Beep, beep.
Trying to make sense of computers, The Error Log.

That thought crossed my mind, but I didn't want to go there, although I will go to over-permissive parents...or "don't worry, he's just a kid".

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Also, 4.1% isn't really very many. I think that figure is enough to cover both clumsy kids and abusive parents.

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Gillian

"Now everyone was giving her that kind of look UFOlogists get when they suddenly say, 'Hey, if you shade your eyes you can see it is just a flock of geese after all.'"

"You can't erase icing."

"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"

High-Fat Breakfast May Increase Stress
As apposed to what? Don't we all know what fat does to the body?

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Y'know, I've been thinking about this bit with the video games. I'm not convinced it improves your eyesight (though for a man of my age my eyesight isn't awful. NOt bad for a blind guy)

*BUT*, video games such as first person shooters (there are others that require the same skill set that aren't anywhere near fo violent) might improve pattern recognition skills.

Think of it as sudoku for the eyes.