The study says........nothing - Page 4

Gillianren · #91 (**permalink**) 11-July-2007, 08:34 PM

I will say that I'm more supportive of country-of-origins lately than I would have been even just a couple of months ago; I really want to know if my purchases originate in China.

Fazor · #92 (**permalink**) 12-July-2007, 06:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Gillianren

I will say that I'm more supportive of country-of-origins lately than I would have been even just a couple of months ago; I really want to know if my purchases originate in China.

What, you don't like tastey treats such as these?

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BEIJING, China (AP) -- Chopped cardboard, softened with an industrial chemical and flavored with fatty pork and powdered seasoning, is a main ingredient in batches of steamed buns sold in one Beijing neighborhood, state television said.

Yum.

Peter Wilson · #93 (**permalink**) 13-July-2007, 12:13 AM

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Muscular young men are likely to have more sex partners than their less-chiseled peers, researchers at the University of California Los Angeles said on Monday.

Are they sure muscular young men can count?

Lurker · #94 (**permalink**) 13-July-2007, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Peter Wilson

Are they sure muscular young men can count?

hmmmmm.... this could be a real flaw in the study design...

Van Rijn · #95 (**permalink**) 13-July-2007, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Fazor

What, you don't like tastey treats such as these?

Yum.

Well, it's just roughage.

Actually, while I'm not impressed with their method of production, it occurs that there might not be that much difference between different sources of cellulose in the diet, as long as safety practices are followed.

Maksutov · #96 (**permalink**) 13-July-2007, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by danscope

The introduction of high fructose corn syrup into 85% of everything you eat
has been a contributor to the fat problem. It is a national and scientific disgrace. Powerfull interests are making money.
Arm yourself with education and the hard work of making better decisions when you eat and what you eat, and "WHERE" you eat. And....the exercise is a good thing.
Best regards, Dan

You're missing the impact of the presence of dihydrogen monoxide as a major component in almost all our foods.

Insidious.

NEOWatcher · #97 (**permalink**) 07-August-2007, 04:44 PM

A new study says that how we choose our friends is strongly influenced by genetic factors

I understand that they are distinguishing this from the environment, but what is to distinguish this from the "people like me" factor?

davidlpf · #98 (**permalink**) 08-August-2007, 05:02 AM

Muscular young men are likely to have more sex partners than their less-chiseled peers, researchers at the University of California Los Angeles said on Monday.
Its not quanity but quality.

NEOWatcher · #99 (**permalink**) 23-August-2007, 02:16 PM

Soccer Burns More Fat Than Jogging

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Playing team sports helps people get in shape more quickly than just running, according to new research in Denmark.
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Researchers said it may be because soccer players can focus on their team or other activities, while all runners have to think about is themselves.

Translation...Running=boring, Sports=fun

NEOWatcher · #**100** (**permalink**) 23-August-2007, 03:09 PM

Some of the inferences, or speculations that resulted from this study are worth following up on. But; without those followups, relying solely on the results here, it sounds rather DUH.

Gastric Bypass Lowers Risk of Death

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Studies have shown that after surgery, patients often lose 50% or more of their excess weight — and keep it off

Which is why they have the surgery. They have exhasted other forms.

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and symptoms of obesity-related conditions like diabetes, high blood pressure, high cholesterol and sleep apnea are improved or eliminated altogether. Now, two new studies in the New England Journal of Medicine (NEJM) show another long-term benefit: a lower risk of death.

Which is most likely due to lower incidences of diabetes, high blood pressure, high cholesteral. Which is exactly what they say farther down in the article.

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Results like these have got some doctors intrigued enough to start thinking about bariatric surgery as a treatment for conditions other than obesity —especially diabetes

Ok; I understand maybe studying this, but what makes them think there is more than the obesity connection here?

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The interesting thing is that the resolution of diabetes happens within a few weeks following surgery, long before patients have lost their weight.

Never mind, this may be the connection, but what's to say that the sudden change in the rate of absortion doesn't do it?

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The second study [...] Ten years after surgery, researchers report, the bariatric surgery patients had lost more weight and had a 24% lower risk of death than the comparison group. [...] after 10 years, bypass patients had maintained a 25% weight loss, compared to a 16% loss in patients who had stomach stapling, and 14% in those who underwent a banding procedure.

But not compared to non-surgical procedures?

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but an interesting finding in the Utah study shows that these patients were 58% more likely to die from other causes, such as suicide and accidents

So; people who don't die one way are likely to die another way?

NEOWatcher · #**101** (**permalink**) 23-August-2007, 04:18 PM

It's got to be a slow news day...
Besides the various sex studies that are out (I really don't care how much a 70 year old has sex)
This one gave me a chuckle...
Asking for a Raise? Read This First

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Advice: if you’re going to ask the boss for a raise, wait til she’s in a good mood. But don’t do anything that will let her know you know she’s in a good mood.

But what about if you don't know if she doesn't know that you don't know, that she knows, she is in a good mood? You know?

Lurker · #**102** (**permalink**) 23-August-2007, 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Gillianren

Really? You don't think some people can't make the choice of activity over inactivity?

There are some who can't, but I think the question is should it be the government's responsibility to make sure that these people adjust their lifestyles to accomodate their level of activity.

This is why I find the government's ban on trans fatty acids so amusing. If there is a requirement that foods be labeled as containing them, people have the choice to avoid them. If people chose not to, it should be up to them.

Nicolas · #**103** (**permalink**) 31-August-2007, 01:48 PM

Sorry if it has been covered already, but I couldn't make sense out of these study results:

-they investigated heterosexual couples who were a couple from before their first child to after their last child, all clear here.
-women who had a partner 4 year older on average had the most children. Clear.
-men who had a partner 6 years younger on average had the most children. If the results are statistically significant, how is that possible given the previous conclusion??

I seriously doubt the statistical significance of the results anyway, since they are talking about a 0.1 child difference. This means a variance of less than +- 0.05 children, which would mean a very large amount of couples given the spread in number of children people get.

The only way I can possibly make sense out of the results is that for the women they investigated, their men had children in other relationships before or after this relationship and vice versa. In which case the investigation results still are quite rubish, and they'd better investigated the relationship between age differences and number of relationships, or the relation between number of relationships and number of children per relationship

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NEOWatcher · #**104** (**permalink**) 31-August-2007, 02:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Nicolas

Sorry if it has been covered already, but I couldn't make sense out of these study results:

I don't recall that one, but there was one recently that sounded strange in the same way.
Men had more sexual partners than women on average (by a very wide margin).
Now; unless men are much more homosexual than women, I can not understand how any average can be anything but 50-50.

Delvo · #**105** (**permalink**) 31-August-2007, 04:02 PM

That last one's easy. It was a survey.

(Also, there are slightly more women than men, and the study might have excluded virgins or excluded certain ages or something like that.)

NEOWatcher · #**106** (**permalink**) 31-August-2007, 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Delvo

That last one's easy. It was a survey.

Exactly my point... My conclusion was how much more a man will exaggerate.

Delvo · #**107** (**permalink**) 31-August-2007, 05:13 PM

...or how much more a woman will in the other direction.

NEOWatcher · #**108** (**permalink**) 31-August-2007, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Delvo

...or how much more a woman will in the other direction.

Touche

NEOWatcher · #**109** (**permalink**) 19-September-2007, 06:05 PM

Nutritionists: Soda making Americans drink themselves fat

Guess what? Sodas that are sweetened with sugars have calories.

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Jacobson said the CSPI [Center for Science in the Public Interest] is pushing to require obesity warning labels on the sides of soda cans, like the surgeon general's warning on cigarettes.

I guess that top line of the nutrition information labeled "calories" with a number next to it means nothing?

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"Soup is the anomaly to the liquid calorie research," he said. "People perceive soup as a meal, unlike drinking a Coke. So when we've done these types of studies, but used soup as the liquid, we don't see the same differences in [appetite] response."

Does anybody know of a good recipe for a sugar based soup?