CNN Does it again
Diets an unhealthy fix for teen weight concerns

Summary: Teens who diet, tend to gain weight.
And...
Isn't that dieting?

Why can't they just say you should adopt the right eating hapits.

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Well, if thier point was suppose to be that "eating healthy food and getting excersize shouldn't be dieting, it should be NORMAL" then I see where they're coming from. BUT I don't think that was thier point.

I think it should have said "crash diets" or "starvation diets", if that's what they're talking about. (methinks it is).

But since when does the media pay attention to details? It doesn't matter if the people get the right idea or not, just matters how many people read/watch the news. it's not like news should be informative or anything...

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I'm like one of those idiot savants...well, except for the savant part.

"A long time ago, yet somehow in the future"

Dieting doesn't work because the mind cannot fool the body.

If the government (the "mind") announces that sugar is to be rationed, what happens? Individuals (the "body") stock-pile sugar. So when your mind announces to your body, "calories are to be rationed," ("I'm going on a diet..."), your body responds in an appropriate manner: it begins "stock-piling" calories. (Or if that is not an option, when you inevitably go off-diet, your body stock-piles calories, "in case it happens again.")

Anyway, that is my pet-theory as to why dieting doesn't work...and I'm sticking to it

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PW -- Plant Whisperer

It's a pretty good analogy for what really happens.

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Gillian

"Now everyone was giving her that kind of look UFOlogists get when they suddenly say, 'Hey, if you shade your eyes you can see it is just a flock of geese after all.'"

"You can't erase icing."

"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"

Todays candidate...
Playing video games improves eyesight
People who started out as non-gamers and then received 30 hours of training on first-person action video games showed a substantial increase in their ability to see objects accurately in a cluttered space, compared to non-gamers given the same test,
Well, I can see that, But:
What about non-gamers, or maybe other visual stimulants? Would this be like saying bananas can help cure hunger? Why ones that involve firing guns?
How did they measure this? What test?
Why did they study this?

This sounds to me more like, "how can a university student justify long hours playing violent video games into?"

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I'd love to believe this, but I'm fairly certian that the hours I spend playing WoW (ontop of the 8 hours a day I spend on the computers at work) have a much more detrimental effect on my vision than any supposed benefits.

Wouldn't spending a few hours a day with "Where's Waldo" type books give the same benefit? Isn't the real conclusion "People who practice identfing object in cluttered spaces are better at identifing objects in cluttered spaces"?

Of course, I like video games, so we can always just nod and go along with that study's version of life

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I'm like one of those idiot savants...well, except for the savant part.

"A long time ago, yet somehow in the future"

How can that work?

(actually, that's good phrasing for what I was thinking)

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It just falls under one of my favorite catagories ('caus I get to use one of the few scientific words I know and possibly sound intelligent for a change).

And that's the simple, but extreemely common on all levels of science, mistake of confusing an indirrect corrolation for a dirrect one.

(coincidentally, one of my fav Simpsons scenes on this topic)
edit: speaking of mistakes, i said indirrect twice. corrected to make more sense

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I'm like one of those idiot savants...well, except for the savant part.

"A long time ago, yet somehow in the future"

You also "r-ed" indirect incorrectly twice

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PW -- Plant Whisperer

No WOW makes life better in every aspect. That's what I tell myself anyway. As for video games, I will say this. I spent some time playing on the Wii with my kids and I felt like I got a workout. I think that was a genius idea from Nintendo. Now we can use it to babysit our children and know they are getting exercise. Lol, that was a joke. They do have a limited amount of electronic entertainment time. I just like it cuz we are all moving rather than sitting on the couch, blindly staring at the tv.

Yeah I always do that, but I don't know why. I know it's wrong, and it just looks wrong, but I still always type it that way. Altho I don't do it when I write the word by hand. *shrugs* probably the same reason why i always type business "Buisness" and any word that starts with "prob" ends up "probably" even if i'm trying to type "problem" "probable" etc. I think there's a few lazy neurons in the typing section of my brain.

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I'm like one of those idiot savants...well, except for the savant part.

"A long time ago, yet somehow in the future"

When I was in high school, no one worried about dieting. We were all too busy playing soccer, vollyball, tennis, football, field hockey, bicycling, track and field, swimming, etc., to grow fat.

Even then, some were a bit heavier set than others, but it was the extremely rare exception to the case, and even they played sports.

I'm scratching my head trying to remember if there was anyone who was a "fatty" who wasn't on the football team, and I'm drawing a complete blank. Even going through my yearbook, I think there was only one such person in our graduating class of more than 500 who didn't actually play one sport or another, either officially with the school or unofficially, such as sandlot baseball or pickup soccer.

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I am Mugs, of the Alien clan of Usa, Nordamerica, a Terran, of Sol.

Mine: "Perception isn't reality. It's merely an abstraction thereof, and quite often not a very good one at that."

Heinlein's: "Staying young requires the unceasing cultivation of the ability to unlearn old falsehoods." "Freedom begins when you tell Ms. Grundy to go fly a kite."

The word 'diet' alone defines an eating plan, though culturally it is related to losing weight. Years ago ago I made a diet to fatten.

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"Shut up and calculate" R. Feynman

The introduction of high fructose corn syrup into 85% of everything you eat
has been a contributor to the fat problem. It is a national and scientific disgrace. Powerfull interests are making money.
Arm yourself with education and the hard work of making better decisions when you eat and what you eat, and "WHERE" you eat. And....the exercise is a good thing.
Best regards, Dan

And after they outlawed trans-fat (or whatever it was) I thought all our food was safe!

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PW -- Plant Whisperer

I've never been one for organized sports, but my best friend and I used to take walks all the time. I attribute my current weight gain (though I'm slowly losing again) to the fact that my body is no longer up to walking a mile or two at a go.

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Gillian

"Now everyone was giving her that kind of look UFOlogists get when they suddenly say, 'Hey, if you shade your eyes you can see it is just a flock of geese after all.'"

"You can't erase icing."

"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"

Ok; I never heard of this cure, apparently it's pretty popular.

Ouch: Duct Tape May Not Get Rid Of Warts

And just to make sure the study meant nothing:
Edit to add:
Must be big news because there's more than one local station (different networks) carrying the story.
But this one in Readers Digest form

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Numbers are not case sensitive. (me)

Yes, according to this article.

Interesting, a research article that actually says something.

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I never gained more than 6% body fat until I'd exited the "sports is for fun" mode.

Since then, I've returned, quite remarkably, towards a lighter load, because I've chosen activity over inactivity, healthy food over unhealthy food, and smaller portions over larger ones.

Three simple steps, people.

If you can't take these steps, then spend tens of thousands of dollars getting your stomach stapled shut.

Or die.

Your choice either way.

I've chosen life, and don't for a second tell me some people are somehow "unable" to make that choice.

Everyone makes choices, and how they live or die are a direct result of the choices they make.

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I am Mugs, of the Alien clan of Usa, Nordamerica, a Terran, of Sol.

Mine: "Perception isn't reality. It's merely an abstraction thereof, and quite often not a very good one at that."

Heinlein's: "Staying young requires the unceasing cultivation of the ability to unlearn old falsehoods." "Freedom begins when you tell Ms. Grundy to go fly a kite."