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Old 06-April-2007, 06:58 PM
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when I interviewed with one local astrolger he said that planet Mars is famous in astrology to give energy to the individual on earth, he further said that mars is the only planet after earth who allows the things to accept into it, later he said that "vulcanic erruptions are but natural on mars", and frequently follows. he further said that most of the part of mars is covered by grineesh shade. Mars is a symbol of prosperity. He further said that mars is responsible to increase and decrease the blood pressure of human on earth, that's he suggest that any operation of the human body must to avoid on tuesday. He did a anatomy of 2007 year which get a addition of 2+0+0+7= 9, and 9 is derived number of mars in astrology, and he said that 2007 year is full of a great energy.

I was curious hearing his statements.

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Old 06-April-2007, 07:14 PM
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Sunil,
I read your post, thought to reply, but then thought, Why? Astrology is rubbish, and has no place on an astrONOMY website.

Then I saw - just above your post is an advertisement, "Which zodiac sign are you?" from "Horoscopes.starware.com".
Your astrologer clearly has strange powers!

Moderators - can't you ask Google to exclude certain types of ad from this site?
If I was a strictly orthodox scientist, that ad would be offensive in the extreme to my religion.

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Old 06-April-2007, 07:45 PM
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On the other hand, possibly by watching, definitely by clicking on the ads you're moving money from the astrologers to the astronomers.
This is a good thing, even though it is dirty money gotten by defrauding naive people of their money.

I find it delightfully ironic that astrologers and other similar people help pay for this site.
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Old 06-April-2007, 07:59 PM
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adblock by firefox. I forgot those ads were even there. It's been probably 12 months or more since I saw one last.
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I fear that while the irony is significant, the transfer of cash is not.
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Old 07-April-2007, 12:33 AM
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Which is why Phil and Fraser has said it's ok to use whichever tool you have to hide them.
Firefox with AdBlock is definitely doing it for me.
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I find it interesting that the astrologer believes that volcanic activity is common on Mars, and that the planet is covered in a green tint. Has he/she never seen any photos of Mars?

Of course, the photos could have been re-touched to remove the volcanoes and green tint, but then we'd have to move this thread to the "conspiracy theories" bin.
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[edit]strictly orthodox scientist...
Contradiction in terms.
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I find it interesting that the astrologer believes that volcanic activity is common on Mars, and that the planet is covered in a green tint. Has he/she never seen any photos of Mars?

Of course, the photos could have been re-touched to remove the volcanoes and green tint, but then we'd have to move this thread to the "conspiracy theories" bin.
Funny, there are a number of volcanoes that show up in the various NASA (and others') photographs of Mars. The biggest, Olympus Mons, is the largest volcano in the solar system (discovered to date). It's so big that it shows up in Hubble photos as well as a few taken from here on Earth.

Re the greenish tint, orangish/reddish is more accurate.

Perhaps your astrolger is colorblind, with temperature rising.

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Funny, there are a number of volcanoes that show up in the various NASA (and others') photographs of Mars. The biggest, Olympus Mons, is the largest volcano in the solar system (discovered to date). It's so big that it shows up in Hubble photos as well as a few taken from here on Earth.
The key, though, is the use of present tense. There *was* volcanic activity on Mars, but unless the astrology waves take billions of years to reach Earth, it really won't influence anything at present.
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I, as an outsider, find it very amusing how astronomers vehemently deny there origins. Its very much like when my high school chemistry teacher blew a major gasket when I brought up the fact that chemists originally were alchemists. Like kids embarrassed by their parents.

And as I recall, Suntrak lives in India, so quite likey his astrologer isn't a disinfranchised, peroxide blond, high school drop out, trying to scam people to make the next rental payment on her trailer but somebody who really believes what he says, accurate or not.
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I, as an outsider, find it very amusing how astronomers vehemently deny there origins.
It is a bit ironic considering the differences in today vs. Kepler's day. However, I don't think they deny it, they just want to distance themselves from it.

The green issue on Mars likely comes from the early days of Lowell. He, and others, were convinced that they saw green (or blue-green) vegetation that was cyclical and dependent on the melting of the polar caps. [Perhaps it was this green that made the Martian's green.]
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I, as an outsider, find it very amusing how astronomers vehemently deny there origins. Its very much like when my high school chemistry teacher blew a major gasket when I brought up the fact that chemists originally were alchemists. Like kids embarrassed by their parents.
You'll probably find very few astronomers who deny that astronomy grew out of astrology when, just like you'll find few chemical science people who'd deny tat chemistry grew out of alchemy.

The thing to remember though is that the astrologers and alchemists they grew out of where smart people who had a wrong base of fact to start with and grew beyond it.
The astrologers and alchemists of today are people who have access to much better data and have rejected them in favor of misconceptions that was known to be wrong already by Paracelsus and Galen, people they keep trying to cite as foundations for their beliefs and who would be horrified to know they'd become authorities.
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You'll probably find very few astronomers who deny that astronomy grew out of astrology when, just like you'll find few chemical science people who'd deny tat chemistry grew out of alchemy.

The thing to remember though is that the astrologers and alchemists they grew out of where smart people who had a wrong base of fact to start with and grew beyond it.
The astrologers and alchemists of today are people who have access to much better data and have rejected them in favor of misconceptions that was known to be wrong already by Paracelsus and Galen, people they keep trying to cite as foundations for their beliefs and who would be horrified to know they'd become authorities.


actually both grew out of Physics, but I'm not going to win that one. Just take my word for it.
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CC, I thought all the sciences grew out of philosophy? Which is now reduced to just morality and metaphysics
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if you count Aristotle a scientist or physicist, then maybe. but I contend he did more harm in the name of science than good. He held us back a long time in mechanics and astronomy.
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Mainly because it was his works rather than those of Archimedes and Euclid and the other mathematicians and engineers that got preserved by the theological scholars of the early western culture.

Don't blame the Greeks when it was later selection of only some of their works that limited people.
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interesting point. I still find it odd people heroize him, when almost 100% of what he said, sciencewise anyway, was wrong.
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[edit]strictly orthodox scientist...

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[edit]Contradiction in terms.

Sigh.
Contradiction in terms = oxymoron
See: http://paul.merton.ox.ac.uk/

And anyway, I'd have been banned for using the 'r' word.
The one that ends in 'igion' with 'el' in the middle.

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