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Old 11-April-2007, 11:08 PM
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For two weeks, at least.

It strikes me that what he said is mild compared to what one hears from rap "artists",; in fact what I was just subjected to at a local strip mall by a couple idiots with their 120dB brain blender in a customized SUV would make what old Don said seem like an excerpt from a nursery rhyme.

On a side note, I'm sure I'm not the only one who's getting tired of audio assaults when visiting public places.
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It strikes me that what he said is mild compared to what one hears from rap "artists",;
Which, of course, doesn't make what Imus said any more acceptable.

As for "audio assaults", I have long been a proponent of the used of rocket propelled grenades upon anyone who radio is turn too loud
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Old 11-April-2007, 11:51 PM
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Ah, but he's a white male, so he can't be allowed to get away with it.

But, all else being equal, were he black, what might have happened?

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Old 11-April-2007, 11:56 PM
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I'm pretty sure the Law of Conservation of Dudgeon is operating here.
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Which, of course, doesn't make what Imus said any more acceptable.
True, but you don't see various corporate sponsors pulling their contracts from the various rap "artists", so all things being equal that shouldn't be happening to Imus either.
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As for "audio assaults", I have long been a proponent of the used of rocket propelled grenades upon anyone who radio is turn too loud
Brother, can you spare a grenade?

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Imus has been insulting just about everyone for many years. I think what really set people off this time was that the target was a women's basketball team, not politicians or celebrities.
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Old 12-April-2007, 12:55 AM
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MSNBC just announced no more TV coverage of his radio show, due to fleeing sponsors. Hooray!
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Old 12-April-2007, 01:07 AM
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The validity of how bad what Imus said is in the fact that it created a topic.

Today on the radio station I usually listen to, the white host and black co-host got into it because it was the topic. Regardless of their positions on it.. the fact that they both walked out on the show is proof enough that it is a valid problem that needs to be addressed.

It will never be solved until both sides of any two races, or religions or anything else, learn that no one is ever going to feel what they feel, accept it and move on.

This same argument works with men and women too... but the argument doesn't get as heated.

I may ONLY be percieved as racist or bigoted, when in fact I was trying to understand... but the question alone was hurtful to the other person.
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Imus's biggest mistake was seeking absolution from Al Sharpton. He should have gone to Jesse Jackson, someone who has been there and done that!

Jay Leno said it best last night: "Al Sharpton has a radio show?"
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Ah, but he's a white male, so he can't be allowed to get away with it.

But, all else being equal, were he black, what might have happened?

Fred
Heh, CNN carried a video of interviews with black women who use the term "ho" amongst themselves who said Imus was out of line.

If Imus were black, not a damned thing. Hypocracy at its finest.
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Imus's biggest mistake was seeking absolution from Al Sharpton. He should have gone to Jesse Jackson, someone who has been there and done that!

Jay Leno said it best last night: "Al Sharpton has a radio show?"
Jesse Jackson is somewhere in Al Sharpton's realm of worthless rabblerousing hack after his remark about a triage center in New Orleans during the Katrina aftermath resembled a slave ship.

Not one of them is out for equality, they're looking to get ahead on white guilt. The time has come to cut off the funding for guilt trips.
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Imus has been insulting just about everyone for many years. I think what really set people off this time was that the target was a women's basketball team, not politicians or celebrities.
Agreed. Such a disparaging comment about a group of young women playing for a national chamionship. It would be different if he was giving the business to a bunch of hookers turning tricks on the corner. That is what it is. But to aim it at a premier group of college athletes is absurd.

I will be the first to call a loser a loser. That is not what he did. His comments were baseless, crass, rascist, sexist, etc.

The real shame is that he has a following. The rules of supply and demand would indicate there are a lot of ignorant people in this world.
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Speaking of Al Sharpton, and also of false rape charges with strong racial motivations:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tawana_Brawley

People need to be reminded of that when Sharpton starts morally pontificating.

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Hmm... To steer away from the racial issue inherent with this conversation, I'll just say how tired I am of hearing about this. Imus was wrong to say what he said, but he has the right to say it. As a professional he should have known the implications. [edit: poor choice of words, should be "ramifications".]

Thing is, I think he did. Now everyone is talking about him. He doesn't care if they hate him or love him, but everyone knows his name. As for the Rutger's women; I think it's pretty obvious they're playing the whole thing up, and not to see "justice" but for the publicity. I mean, it's Women's basketball. I'm an average sports fan; I can talk about baseball, college mens Ball, college or pro football, whatever. But I didn't even know who made it to the women's championship because frankly I don't care. Now I know, but only because of this Imus thing.

Again I think it's just another example of the media choosing what to sensationalize, and the ridiculous but sadly effective way the public is fooled into thinking these advertising campaigns are actual news.
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Most of what I know about talk radio comes from overhearing Tom Likus (sp) on the radios at work...he has quite a following "'mongst the men."

In the snippets I hear, all Tom does is put-down and insult women. That's it. Entiely 1-dimensional. That's where his show begins and ends: puttin' down women so the men in the audience with frail egos will feel better about themselves. He's got a gift for it, and he's apparently doing quite well for himself, Thank you, doing nothing but providing this vital service for the community.

Never heard Imus' show, but I'm tempted to admit I'm a little unclear on just what "line" it was he crossed in insulting the ladies BB team. Nonetheless, I don't want anyone accusing me of "just not getting it," so I'll go with crowd and say,

Imus was way off-base and deserves to be fired!

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Most of what I know about talk radio comes from overhearing Tom Likus (sp) on the radios at work...he has quite a following "'mongst the men."
You have my sympathy. Being forced to listen to "Combover Boy" is a fate not worth contemplating.
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Er, I'm actually having difficulty seeing how this could even be construed as racist at all. I can see sexist (though I don't agree that it is), but why racist?

Now, I agree that Imus was crass, rude, and boorish, but how was he racist? I'm genuinely curious.
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Er, I'm actually having difficulty seeing how this could even be construed as racist at all. I can see sexist (though I don't agree that it is), but why racist?

Now, I agree that Imus was crass, rude, and boorish, but how was he racist? I'm genuinely curious.
Well, the first part of his statement is a stereotype of blacks, the second (and IMHO worse part) is the part that's sexest. But you don't see the women's right's people up in arms. But, as i stated earlier, I think it's fairly obvious that this is all just one big publicity stunt for both sides involved.

To get recognized you can do one of two things: 1) do your job soo well that everyone looks to you as a pillar in your respective field (lots of hard work, and talent needed) or 2) do something so outlandish/outragous that everyone talks about you for it (easy to do)

I have no respect for those who take the second option.
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Well, the first part of his statement is a stereotype of blacks, the second (and IMHO worse part) is the part that's sexest. But you don't see the women's right's people up in arms. But, as i stated earlier, I think it's fairly obvious that this is all just one big publicity stunt for both sides involved.

To get recognized you can do one of two things: 1) do your job soo well that everyone looks to you as a pillar in your respective field (lots of hard work, and talent needed) or 2) do something so outlandish/outragous that everyone talks about you for it (easy to do)

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