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Consider the hand.
A human hand.

Four fingers and a thumb.

You are so small, and the universe is so big.

And you are as NOTHING.

Education #1 - Rules for posting to this forum (not my bolding):

RULES FOR POSTING TO THIS BOARD


Below are the rules for posting to the Bad Astronomy/Universe Today Bulletin Board. Most of these fall under the simple rule of “Be polite”. However, there are some specifics that need to be listed.

For most of these rules, the first violation will result in a warning issued via Private Message (PM). If you have PMs turned off, we will issue the warning in the thread. In the case of a second violation, depending upon the severity, the moderators/administrators will issue a more stern warning, or they may ban you temporarily (for a few days), or they may permanently ban you.

That may sound harsh, but in reality these rules are pretty easy to follow. This board is based upon mutual respect for and by all posters. This is a community. Whether we agree on specifics or not, we’re all here because we’re interested in the Universe around us. Following these rules benefits everyone.

1. Posting Topics

First and foremost, this discussion forum focuses upon space and astronomy. Please stay within these areas when creating topics and participating in existing conversations. The Off-Topic Babbling section exists for general banter which falls outside space and astronomy -- and do note that the forum rules apply there as well. Scientific topics outside of space and astronomy are welcome in the General Science section.

2. Civility and Decorum

Politeness is the top rule here. Of course, we expect to have spirited debates! That’s fine, as long as the people involved extend one another basic respect. Disagreements are inevitable, but even in those situations you must still be nice.

Attack the ideas, not the person(s) presenting them. If you've got concerns with what someone is saying, feel free dismantle their arguments, but do not resort to ad hominem or personal attacks. Be mindful and respectful of others' feelings. If you feel that someone has crossed the line and insulted you, please contact one of the moderators via private message or e-mail. Don't write scathing posts in the forum to try and humiliate people publicly.

If these guidelines are not followed, the administrators/moderators will take swift and appropriate action, so please behave accordingly.

3. Language

No cursing. This goes along with being polite. This website is read by a lot of kids, including young school kids who want to learn about astronomy, space, and space exploration. The Universe is a marvelous place, full of beauty and wonder, and if you despoil it by using bad language you will quickly invoke the ire of the administrators and moderators. Think of the language used on TV during an after-school special and you'll get the idea. Deliberately misspelled bad words, or replacing key letters with different characters or numbers will not be tolerated. Same goes with adult topics -- talk about them somewhere else. If you do need to post something risqué, stick with arcane scientific terminology.

This includes avatars: since you can upload an image to be your avatar, use care in choosing that image. Contact a moderator or administrator if you have any doubts.

4. Copyright

Do not post copyrighted material here. This is very serious. It is within the law to post small, relevant quotes, but not whole passages from newspapers, magazines, books, etc. If you do, the post will be deleted, and you will be warned. Do it twice and you will be banned. If you want to reference material somewhere else on the web, give a brief summary and link to the rest. People can go take a look at what you're talking about and then return to discuss it further.

5. Privacy Issues

Do not post private email you have received without the express permission of the sender. There are legal and copyright reasons for this, not to mention that doing so is very impolite. The same caveat applies to private messages, whether they're from this forum or anywhere else. If you receive rude or abusive private messages on this forum, please contact the administrators/moderators for assistance. Posting private information about forum users that is not available otherwise publicly will not be tolerated.

6. Advertising, Solicitation, and Spam

Do not post advertisements of any kind without securing the express consent of the administrators beforehand. Do not use this bulletin board as a vehicle to promote your own website, product, or forum, nor to sell merchandise. These are egregious offenses which will result in the deletion of the offending posts and banning of the user(s) responsible. Do not submit threads/posts containing identical text in multiple forum categories; that's considered spamming the board, and likewise will be dealt with accordingly.

You can put a website in your signature if you wish, but please think carefully before you do so. If you have any doubts that it may break one of these rules, contact a moderator or administrator first.

7. Second & Third Party Posting

Do not post on behalf of other people. In other words, if someone you know has something to say relevant to the discussion in a thread, have them register and post it. Think of them as a copyrighted source: you can quote them in short amounts, but if there is something substantial they want to add, they must do it themselves.

8. Hotlinking

Try to avoid putting in links to images directly from someone else's website. This can add a lot to their bandwidth, and then the host has to pay for it. In other words, if you see an image you like on an astronomy site, put in a link to that site, but don't use the [IMG] tags so the image loads into your post from their site directly. If you really want an image in your post, put it in a public site someplace and link to it from there. One exception would be from sites like NASA or universities, where bandwidth is not such an issue. If you own the image, then you can upload it to the board yourself.

9. "Hit & Run"

The technique of posting a single provocative statement (or, commonly, a URL to a pseudoscience website) and then never posting again in a thread is greatly frowned upon. This is only a step above trolling. Barely.

10. Sock Puppetry

Users are allowed only one account per person. Don't attempt to register a second or third forum username so you can have different personalities and have conversations with yourself. Sock puppets will not be tolerated. All such accounts (including the primary one) will be banned without warning.

11. Editing & Revisionism

Edit your posts with care. There's no problem with editing a post later to change the tone or to correct spelling and the like. But changing content is not allowed! This is a slippery path that can be seen as revisionism. You may edit your post for up to 24 hours. Also, when quoting other posters, you may trim the text down to brief snippets to address something in particular, but do not misquote others or alter their content to suggest they've stated things which they haven't.

12. Politics & Religion

Due to the contentious nature of these subjects, forum participants are strongly advised to avoid discussing religious and political issues. Please don't begin or contribute to a topic that's merely going to incite or fuel a flame war.

However, the following exceptions apply:

A) Political impact upon space programs, exploration, and science.

B) Focused, polite discussion of concepts such as creationism and "intelligent design" which bear direct relevance to astronomy and science, for the purposes of conversing about and addressing misconceptions.

C) Focused, polite discussion of the difference between astronomy (including cosmology) and religion

D) In the Bad Astronomy Stories section only, focused, polite discussion of topics or issues brought up in the originating post. Do not start a new thread there with your own topics, and do not take the discussion to another forum section.

Partisan political debate is unwelcome anywhere but in the Bad Astronomy Stories section (see 12D above) and should be undertaken elsewhere. The same applies to debates purely religious in nature. Likewise, proselytizing will not be allowed. In short, outside of the Bad Astronomy Stories section you are allowed to discuss politics and religion within a very limited scope where they affect space and space exploration, astronomy, and science. Nothing more. If you really really need to talk about these topics with someone, take it to email or to another bulletin board.

13. Alternative Concepts and Conspiracy Theories

If you have some idea which goes against commonly-held astronomical theory, or think UFOs are among us, then you are welcome to argue it here. Before you do, though READ THIS THREAD FIRST. This is very important. Then, if you still want to post your idea, you will do so politely, you will not call people names, and you will defend your arguments. Direct questions must be answered in a timely manner.

People will attack your arguments with glee and fervor here; that's what science and scientists do. If you cannot handle that sort of attack, then maybe you need to rethink your theory, too. Remember: you came here. It's our job to attack new theories. Those that are strong will survive, and may become part of mainstream science.

Additionally, keep promotion of your theories and ideas to only those Against the Mainstream or Conspiracy Theory threads which discuss them. Hijacking other discussions to draw attention to your ideas will not be allowed.

If it appears that you are using circular reasoning, depending on long-debunked arguments, or breaking any of these other rules, you will receive one warning, and if that warning goes unheeded, you will be banned.

As with the other sections of the forum, we ask you to keep your topics about space and astronomy. We will close down any thread which doesn't have anything to do with space and astronomy immediately.


14. Disruptive Behavior

The moderators and administrators reserve the right to take action against a poster who is disrupting the normal flow of the board. This includes violations listed in the other rules (trolling, use of ad hominems, posting copyrighted materials, etc.), but may also include behavior we have not yet foreseen. Since this rule is perforce general, we will attempt to correct the problem by warning the violator (via PM, email, or posting in the thread) and giving him/her a chance to explain his/her behavior, and we will take further action only if proven necessary.

15. Repeat/Chronic Offenders

Be warned: If you are banned and try to get back in by spoofing or changing your email, appropriate action will be taken -- not limited to but including contacting your ISP.

16. Reporting Bad Posts

If you feel a post breaks one of these rules, please report it by clicking the 'report' button (the red triangle with the exclamation mark inside it, located at the top right hand side of every post). Do not talk about bad posts in the forum itself or suggest, speculate on, or threaten what the moderator response should be. All reported posts are reviewed by moderators or administrators, and are treated very seriously (so do not report frivolously). If you have concerns, please PM a moderator or administrator.

17. Moderator Actions

If there is a rule violation, then a moderator will take action. This may include: the deletion of a word or phrase (if it breaks the rules), the removal of an entire post (if it is beyond redemption, or if it's a spam, etc.), the merging of a new thread with an existing one on the same topic, the closing of a thread if it wanders too far off-topic or gets too heated, a gentle warning to a user or users, a not-so-gentle-warning, and as a last resort, the banning of a user. This banning may be temporary or permanent, as outlined above. If a moderator gives you advice, we advise you to take it.

If you disagree with a moderator action, then PM or email the moderator, a different moderator, or an administrator. We will review the case and take action as needed.

18. Rule Additions & Revisions

The administrators reserve the right to modify existing rules and/or add additional rules as they see fit. In many ways, this board is like a living thing, subject to change. Situations sometimes arise which cannot be anticipated, and thus, rules must be added to accommodate them.
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I'm changing the title of your post. Consider this a gentle education on the forum rules, which you should have read up on upon joining. Other than that, welcome, and enjoy yourself!

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"I have this theory that the Apollo missions were faked when NASA found out that general relativity was wrong because the Earth was expanding due to the Sun's iron core being influenced by magnetic waves from the electric universe after being perturbed by Planet X and thereby causing global warming. Where should I start a thread about this?" ~ ToSeek

"Those are the people that wonder how a thermos knows whether to keep something hot or keep something cold." ~ NeoWatcher

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Consider the hand.
A human hand.

Four fingers and a thumb.

You are so small, and the universe is so big.

And you are as NOTHING.

Now am I being (how do you americans phrase it...) dumb?

Perhaps I'm being imprecise. Or maybe I'm being too sensitive?


I'm not sure. (And I'm being generous here).

I'm not looking for an argument, but I resent being told literal rules by someone who doesn't know the difference between

stevens

stevens'

and stevens's

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Consider the hand.
A human hand.

Four fingers and a thumb.

You are so small, and the universe is so big.

And you are as NOTHING.

Your resentment matters not. If you don't understand a rule, ask an admin or moderator to explain it -- doing so in private may be safest for you until you do understand them all.

Otherwise, apply the rules and participate, like us other members.

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Your use of the word in question is correct. However, there is a different and far more common definition of a slightly sorter variation that may get this site blocked from some schools for content related issues. If the administrators of this board feel that a particular 6 letter combination and its variants are not to be allowed, then they are not allowed. Based on that, the ruling by Serenitude is also correct. The term used, violated the rules for posting on this board. Such is the way of the world.

As to your reply, you may want to go back and look at that list again. Disagreeing with an official moderator action, no matter how lightly it was done, is likely to cause more trouble for you. If you disagree with him, send it in a private message. If you want a third party, send it to a different moderator.

On a penultimate note, Americans, and all forms of Stevens that I can think of are proper nouns and would be capitalized, or capitalised if you prefer.

Finally, welcome to the board.

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I'm not evil.
An evil person would do the things I think up.

I certainly have no need to know, but this is a most confusing thread,
making me curious as to what you all are talking about. Did somebody
use a naughty word in this thread? Or was it in a different thread?
Or what?

-- Confused in Minneapolis

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"I find astronomy very interesting, but I wouldn't if I thought we
were just going to sit here and look." -- "Van Rijn"

"The other planets? Well, they just happen to be there, but the
point of rockets is to explore them!" -- Kai Yeves

See post 4 and substute (a variation) for "mangled" in the thead title.

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I'm not evil.
An evil person would do the things I think up.

Interesting quibble, coming from someone who doesn't seem to know the difference between "its" and "it's".

And, welcome to the board.

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Bring back Firefly!

"It is quite clear that Occam's razor does not sharpen in your pyramid." (Nicolas)

"Still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest." (Paul Simon)

Are you saying that the title was originally "How Would You Like to
Bastardize English Today"? If that's the deal, I'll point out that the
word "bastardize" is in my 1964 Webster's New World Dictionary of
the American Language, College Edition:

bastardize, v.t. 1. to make, declare, or show to be a bastard.
2. to misuse; corrupt: as, he bastardized the language. v.i. to
become inferior.

Even given the goofy idea that words can be bad in themselves,
I think putting the word "bastardize" on a forbidden list would be
rather strange.

-- Jeff, in Minneapolis

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http://www.FreeMars.org/jeff/

"I find astronomy very interesting, but I wouldn't if I thought we
were just going to sit here and look." -- "Van Rijn"

"The other planets? Well, they just happen to be there, but the
point of rockets is to explore them!" -- Kai Yeves

It is not my job to make the list. It is my job to enforce the list. The word you chose was caught by the list the owners of the site chose. It is Phil and Fraser who you are calling out as not knowing the difference. I will let them know of your opinion of them

Now that you've had an opportunity to read the entire list of forum rules, as I've posted them for you, not only have you directly argued a moderator action, you've also done it by ad-homing someone (a moderator no less) by suggesting (wrongly) that:

I'm not looking for an argument, but I resent being told literal rules by someone who doesn't know the difference between

stevens

stevens'

and stevens's

I resent being told the rules by someone who doesn't understand them, and then being insulted by someone who clearly has no grasp of what I do and do not know.

You may now change your friendly reminder to an official warning. Your next infraction will earn you suspension, including possible permanent banning, depending upon the severity of your infraction.

Also, you may wish to review trolling, or "simply picking a fight for fun".

I do hope your love of Astronomy leads to a long posting life here, but you are most certainly getting off on the wrong foot

Edit: Also note I have not changed the wording of any form of the word not chosen by the word filter programmed by Phil and Fraser. Again, if it's ok with them, it's ok with me. I reiterate, I do not choose the words. I do, however, enforce the words when they appear.

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"I have this theory that the Apollo missions were faked when NASA found out that general relativity was wrong because the Earth was expanding due to the Sun's iron core being influenced by magnetic waves from the electric universe after being perturbed by Planet X and thereby causing global warming. Where should I start a thread about this?" ~ ToSeek

"Those are the people that wonder how a thermos knows whether to keep something hot or keep something cold." ~ NeoWatcher

Hmmm. Resolent...Resenmut.

Coincidence?

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A person's name, or a mark representing it, as signed personally or by deputy, as in subscribing a letter or other document.

Correct. And as I said, I agree that the word has a use which is perfectly legitimate. That doesn't change the fact that when the title appeared the asterisks were in it, meaning either the poster or the software did it. If it was the software, then it cam up that way for a reason, even if it were an accidental overlap of the text string. If it was the poster, then the follow up post makes no sense. Either way, I'm sitting the rest of this one out. Besides, I think the position of English monitor has been filled.

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I'm not evil.
An evil person would do the things I think up.

Um . . . what's the spelling error there? Did I miss it? (Always possible.)

You know, I take a lot of flak in certain circles for correcting people's spelling. However, I would never consider starting an entire thread to point them out. One quiet post now and again, and less often than people think at that--and usually, I have other things to say, too. I couldn't keep track of all of even one person's mistakes (unless they don't usually make 'em) without missing quite a lot of their content or else going over the posts twice. (Proofing and reading for content are often different things; if I comment on your errors, it's because they jump out at me.)

There are several spelling errors in the original post. There are too many ellipses, including and especially the one that starts the original post. (And, yes, I use too many of 'em too. However, I seldom use that many in a single post.)

Oh, and Serenitude, when did you misuse whatever variant of "Stevens" you're being accused of misusing?

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"Now everyone was giving her that kind of look UFOlogists get when they suddenly say, 'Hey, if you shade your eyes you can see it is just a flock of geese after all.'"

"You can't erase icing."

"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"

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