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Old 11-October-2007, 06:49 AM
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You can leave a two-year-old unattended in a bath for a couple of minutes. You can leave a six-year-old unattended for the entire bath. But an eleven-month-old? That's young enough so that you still hold the child for the entire bath.
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Old 11-October-2007, 07:31 AM
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You can leave a two-year-old unattended in a bath for a couple of minutes. You can leave a six-year-old unattended for the entire bath. But an eleven-month-old? That's young enough so that you still hold the child for the entire bath.
This is true. I missed the part about the childs age.
When mine was 11 months old I bathed him in the sink

When he was over a year old he wouldn't LET me leave him alone in the tub.
Even today, he prefers company when he's in the tub and I usually sit in there and read or play boats. It isn't that I don't leave him alone so much as he doesn't LIKE to be left alone.

I still stand by my earlier statement though.
Pretty dumb and tragically, the child died.

But I think that in itself is punishment.

Adding additional charges and punishment seems cruel on top of redundant.

It's further statement that people cannot learn from their lives and so the government needs to "correctionally" punish us even further.
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Old 11-October-2007, 12:49 PM
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Pretty dumb and tragically, the child died.

But I think that in itself is punishment.

Adding additional charges and punishment seems cruel on top of redundant.
I wouldn't automatically jump to that statement. It's going to depend a lot on her attitude and history. At the very least, she should be guilty with time served.
And; yes; lots of people have left thier child in the tub. It's still wrong, and many have been lucky. Lots of people have also run red lights without killing anyone.
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Old 23-October-2007, 05:03 PM
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It's not often you get a dumb parent, smart kid combination.

Child In Car Calls 911 On 'Not Normal' Mom

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VANCOUVER, Wash. -- An 8-year-old boy riding in a car with his mother called 911 several times Saturday to report that she wasn't "acting normal."
When police caught up with the mother, Paulette Lynn Spears, 33, they arrested her for investigation of drunken driving and other charges, authorities said.
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That is how my great-grandmother punished my grandmother for sneaking bread during the depression. She was also a bit psycho. IMHO cruel and unusual punishment should be reinstated in cases such as these. Hey mom, if the baby keeps spitting out the binky, the baby doesn't want the binky. time to put down the bonbons and be a mother.
As a parent, I have to admit that sometimes my ideas for creative punishment/consequences can run a little extreme, but that is why they remain idea's and not actions. Any injuries I have caused to my kids were purely unintentional and mainly because I am a total clod. [I went to grab the hot water humidifyer (because I didn't know any other type existed at the time) before my son got to it, knocked the bowl out of the top when my hand became tangled in the cord, and poured it right onto my sons foot] The burn scars have long since healed but I don't think I ever will. I declared myself unfit and refused to go near my children for days. Thank goodness the other one didn't result in any serious injuries. [an overwhelmed mother with a 4 yr old, 2 yr old, and 18 month old attempting to get the children through the entrance to the basement and into the garage to get in the car, bents over to help the two yr old back up when he fell, did not realize that the 18 month old was directly behind her. In the bending over action, managed to use her ginormous rear end to push the 18 month old down the stairs to the basement] the stair were plush carpet and the child, upon coming to a stop at the bottom of the stairs responded with a giggle. I declared it was time for a diet.

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I'm convinced when "cruel and unusual" punishment was barred from the US legal system, they weren't thinking about crimes against children.
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Old 31-October-2007, 06:59 PM
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Parent leaves very small child in a running vehicle, child gets caught in power window, then parent goes on national TV to blame not just the manufacturer of her vehicle, but also Transport Canada for "allowing" power windows that lack an auto-reverse:

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Leave a child unattended in a running vehicle, and windows will be the least of your problems. How hard is it to shut off the engine and take your keys when you step out?


Now, name rant time:

Parents are so obsessed with making their child "feel special" that they make sure the name they give their child is as unusual--sorry, "unique"--as possible. Don't they think how the child will probably go through life being made fun of, having people mispronounce and/or misspell (whether accidentally or on purpose) his or her name, and otherwise feeling like an oddball because he/she has a "special" name? How much will that build up their self-esteem?

Whew. Got that off my chest.
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And; the good samaritan didn't stop her from driving away while her daughter was laying dead in the back seat?
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Now, name rant time:

Parents are so obsessed with making their child "feel special" that they make sure the name they give their child is as unusual--sorry, "unique"--as possible. Don't they think how the child will probably go through life being made fun of, having people mispronounce and/or misspell (whether accidentally or on purpose) his or her name, and otherwise feeling like an oddball because he/she has a "special" name? How much will that build up their self-esteem?

Whew. Got that off my chest.
Sometimes it's also just a result of the parents being selfish and self-indulgent, and/or treating their children like pets or possessions; for example all the Celebrities who give their kids therapy-inducing names just because they can.
"Moxie Crimefighter"? More like Future Trainwreck.
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Old 01-November-2007, 08:42 AM
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When I was 5 we had a Datsun pick up. My mom left me in it while she ran into the store for a minute. This was a small town and the store was about the size of a living room. The owner lived above it. It was raining this day, and my mom was taking longer than my attention span allowed, so I tried to turn on the windshield wipers to see if she was close to coming out.

They didn't turn on. I thought about it for a second, and realized that the engine had to be running to make them work, so I started the truck. It was in gear and jumped forward into the front of the store. No damage or injuries, but that was more luck than anything. Modern cars won't start in gear unless the clutch pedal is depressed, but it's still one more in the long line of examples of why kids should never be left alone in a car before a certain age.

It wasn't the fault of the car, or the car-maker. It was my fault for starting the car, and my mom's fault for allowing me to be in a position where I could do something stupid and virtually unexpected.

Could be worse though. I had a friend who was left in a car while it was running. He kicked it into drive, causing it to go down a hill and rear end a police car. He was about 18 months old at the time.
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Old 01-November-2007, 02:26 PM
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Alright 18 months is a bit too young to leave alone in the car for many reasons. Down here the law is, the child must be at least six, the car must be turned off, and for no more than 15 minutes. My kids are 7, 8, and 10 now and I am still terrified to leave them alone for that long. Not to mention, for most of the year where I live, 15 minutes is probably long enough for someone to start getting heat exhaustion in a car that is turned off. There is also the fact that I live in the same town, if anyone is old enough to remember that television movie Adam, where his head was found in the canal. That guy was never caught. Florida, maybe it is just the media, seems to be a safe haven for child predators, so I just don't feel like leaving my kids as bait.
As for names, I am iffy. Some celebs are a little out of hand with it, but I think I may have unintentionally done that to my oldest. I have seen girls with that name before, it just happens that the year she was born, it was the most popular name used for a boy. Anytime I make an appt for her or sign her up for something, until they meet her, they constantly refer to her as a he. Kids have teased her by telling her she has a boys name but I didn't pick it to be different, I just loved the name for a girl. I just always thought it was a name that goes both ways like Chris. Then again, my mother gave me a very normal typical name that happens to rhyme with a certain part of the male, and it was relentless growing up.

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When I was 5 we had a Datsun pick up. My mom left me in it while she ran into the store for a minute. This was a small town and the store was about the size of a living room. The owner lived above it. It was raining this day, and my mom was taking longer than my attention span allowed, so I tried to turn on the windshield wipers to see if she was close to coming out.

They didn't turn on. I thought about it for a second, and realized that the engine had to be running to make them work, so I started the truck. It was in gear and jumped forward into the front of the store. No damage or injuries, but that was more luck than anything. Modern cars won't start in gear unless the clutch pedal is depressed, but it's still one more in the long line of examples of why kids should never be left alone in a car before a certain age.

It wasn't the fault of the car, or the car-maker. It was my fault for starting the car, and my mom's fault for allowing me to be in a position where I could do something stupid and virtually unexpected.

Could be worse though. I had a friend who was left in a car while it was running. He kicked it into drive, causing it to go down a hill and rear end a police car. He was about 18 months old at the time.
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...my mother gave me a very normal typical name that happens to rhyme with a certain part of the male, and it was relentless growing up.
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lol but very close.
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Here's another nominee.

SUBJECT WARNING: This one involves child molestation. The link is to a news report, but it's fairly uh, "descriptive."

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The mother — who told detectives she has a degree in English and was trying to get into tutoring — said she asked her daughter if Cardillo was making her do anything she didn’t want to and the girl said no, so she had to respect that, according to the warrant.
Yeah, good thinking, Mom.
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Yeah, good thinking, Mom.
From your post it only sounded like a "My kid doesn't lie" story about a parent's naivete.
But; the kid told her mom of the horrible things, and only that the kid didn't object to doing them.

Like the story says..."Phil West said. He said she may be mentally ill."
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Old 07-November-2007, 03:02 PM
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May be?

Met him at a Hare Krishna meeting.

If I had a daughter I would be up on charges. For killing that guy.
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Police Find Drunken 13-Year-Old In Truck Stuck In Mud

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Like the story says..."Phil West said. He said she may be mentally ill."
File that one under "BLATANTLY OBVIOUS". There has been nothing more mindshattering that I have personally encountered in my life than the realization that many of the kids being exposed to this abuse are exposed in such a manner that they become willing and cooperative participants.

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