He was winning the War On Drugs, by buying them all up to keep them out of the hands of our nation's youth.

(Hey, I just realized, War On Drugs could be interpreted two different ways, depending on where you pause... War, on drugs...)

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Somewhat like the military envisioned in Star Trek: The Next Generation Encounter At Farpoint.

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Actually, didn't Star Trek: DS9 have an alien race of warriors that fought while hopped up on some kind of stimulant? I believe these aliens were indirectly working for the alien race of which Odo was a member.

Or maybe I'm thinking of something else.

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Yes. The Jem'Hadar, footsoldiers of the Dominion. Genetically engineered to require an enzyme called "Ketricel White" (which, since it was the only drug and indeed the only substance they ever ingested, it seems kind of silly to specify the color. Were there other Ketricels, kind of like the different Kryptonites?)

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Argh.. you ToSeeked me, in a manner of speaking.

Current gov. Richardson actually kept some of that momentum going from former gov. Johnson, otherwise this bill wouldn't have passed.

It remains to be seen how the Feds will handle this.
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Actually, for the first 150 years US did have draconian laws -- just against different things.

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I quite agree... but the lack of draconian drug laws did not somehow result in the downfall if civilization as we know it. Personally I think its time people saw that draconian laws don't work and drop the concept rather than just shifting from one activity to another...

Ever read the constitution, cjl?

That's Okay, the supreme court hasn't, either.*

Won't work. If you can't force the government to uphold the constitution, how you gonna force it to grow pot?





*"The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people."

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This is the relevant wording from the federal constitution:

The federal constitution, and federal law made under its authority, is the supreme law of the land. State constitutions and state law are trumped.

Now, normally, state and federal law act against the individual in parallel. You have state laws and you have federal laws. If you break a state law, the state comes after you. If you break a federal law, the feds come after you. If something is against federal law but not state law, then the state has no problem, but the feds do. And vice versa. And, something might be a violation of both state and federal laws, which mean both get in the act.

That's the way the federal drug laws are. A state can legalize all the drugs it wants, which means the state law enforcement have no beef with it. But, the feds still do.

What the above means is that when federal law and state law *conflict*, that is you can't obey the one without violating the other for instance, then federal law takes precedence, and the conflicting state law does not stand.

The case here, where the state of NM is going to try to grow its own pot, if accurate, will be one of those cases. A federal court will throw out that law on the above quoted grounds as soon as it is brought before it.

I am a big, big "booster" of the 9th and 10th Amendments. However, when a constiutional federal law conflicts with a state law, federal law wins. I am a very, very "strict constructionist" of the federal constitution, and I will make arguments that telling someone whether he can smoke pot or not is not a power of the federal goverment, but belongs to the states, and thus I'd say federal drug laws are unconstitutional. But, the courts say they are constitutional, and thus I'm full of beans.

-Richard

Doesn't seem to apply to Native American treaties, nor past and current sums due them. [Just an example of selective non-enforcement and not intended for further discussion in this thread.]

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States should repeal all of their own drug bans purely for financial reasons. It costs tax money to enforce them. Since the federal government is going to enforce drug bans anyway, why not take advantage of it and let them pay for all of the investigations, arrests, trials, and incarcerations?

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Maybe states and feds should repeal drug bans... we seemed to survive a long time without them...

I'm in favour of some drug laws; I don't want any random idiot getting PCP, for example. But the system does need a major overhaul. (Apaprently, if I felt like committing a crime, I could sell my doctor-prescribed Vicodin for $10 a pop.)

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The issue for me comes down to this... in order to keep PCP out of the hands of random idiots we have built up a huge war on drugs that seems pointless. Perhaps it's time to dismantle the laws and deal with the idiots on a one on one basis...