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I don't care which rocket you use, whichever one you pick, I'll like it, I swear.
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Rovers forever! - ToSeek

I call it "hard to read". But that's OK.

I would have thought you would know better than to trust a computer.

ETA: I would consider the blue in my sig lines as a sky blue...

I agree.

Blue sky, black death.

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I prefer to consider my text as 'Wild Mustang with a Hint of Ebony on a Stormy Moonless Shore After the Watchtower Light Went Out Because Henry Got Drunk Again Black'.

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I'm like one of those idiot savants...well, except for the savant part.
"In order to increase awareness of the homeless, security have been given binoculars."

After reading that, maybe you should use cyan on white.

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I'm like one of those idiot savants...well, except for the savant part.
"In order to increase awareness of the homeless, security have been given binoculars."

Web Content Accessibility Guidelines 1.0 :: Color guidelines

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Sorry. Back to black today.
Still, poor guy.
I was just getting over Irwin.

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I want to go back to the moon.
I don't care which rocket you use, whichever one you pick, I'll like it, I swear.
"If you think the LHC will create black holes, you might as well believe Hobbits are at the bottom of your garden."- Dr. Mike Inglis
Rovers forever! - ToSeek

Thank you. You can say the black is for mourning -- and readability.

He doesn't seem like the type that would have thought "poor me" as he augered in, or deftly landed but without rescue, whatever. I suspect it was more like a classy, "Shoot! It was good."

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This pale blue dot can get quite big when searching for a loved one that's missing.

It's all in the scale. If we were only a nanometer high, searching a bathtub would be equally hard.

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I don't care which rocket you use, whichever one you pick, I'll like it, I swear.
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Rovers forever! - ToSeek

Article

In 2001, a 24-year-old pilot went down around San Bernardino, CA, in the National Forest. His disappearance spawned "one of the most extensive and high-tech searches in the area's history."

They didn't find his wreckage.

If anyone has ever been there, in and around Big Bear Lake, it's fairly well-populated, unlike the terrain in which Fosset disappeared.

Yet it took seven years to find the wreckage.

It might be 2525 before we find Fosset's wreckage.

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If we halt the ISS, all versions of Ares, and transport Orion and Altair aboard DIRECTv3's Jupiter family of Shuttle-Derived Launch Vehicles, we just might make it back to the Moon by 2020.

If man is still alive.

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Steve Fossett's Belongings Possibly Found in California Forest

ETA: The items were found near the Nevada state line in Mammoth-Lakes, CA.

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I just saw that on USAToday too and wonder about thier use of "possibly".
I don't know, an ID with his name on it. You don't think it could possibly be his, do you?

And the FOX story:
Appear to be two cards? How can you mistake something as a card?

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I'm not a master of the English language, but it really annoys me when people who make their living from it (Newscasters, etc.) make obvious mistakes. The Fox thing is silly, but I've seen & heard much worse.

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I think the headline means this could also possibly be a hoax.

Yes; I usually don't have too much of a problem with headlines. It's the body of the story that I think could have been worded differently, or facts arranged better.
The FOX story mentioned a possible hoax, but the wording was funny.
The USAT story didn't mention why it was only "possible" even though they described the articles.

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So, the ID found near Mammoth Lakes simply cannot be the Steve Fossett's ID, because it would be circa 100 kilometers from Fossett's remote-viewed landing spot (Coast to Coast, Google map).

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Newspaper writers are (or were) trained to avoid making declarations in fact with potentially disputable evidence, even something obvious and especially when sensitive information is involved (arrests, child abuse, missing people, etc.). So the use of words such as "appears" and "possibly" is simply the journalist's way of presenting information that was probably made available by someone else, usually the police or other folks in official or semi-official status. It looks stupid to the average reader but it's just proper caution.

Hence the use of words like "alleged" when dealing with arrests, e.g. "Mr. Jones allegedly stole the car." Or "police claim that Mr Jones..." You get the drift.

We weren't there when the stuff was found and I'd wager that neither were the journalists. (Eyewitness reporting is a bit different - you can describe what you saw but even then there may be caveats.)

Extravoice, if newscasters were paid by their use of language they'd be among the poorest people on Earth.

No. I'm quite certain they belong to another person of his size, possessing the same name, who just happened to throw away their shirt and other belongings.



On the other hand, it could very well be a hoax.

DNA will tell.

Fox's "We better check those to items again. They appeared to be cards, but we better check again, as they could have been battleships merely disguised as cards."



I can see the courtroom, now:

Prosecution: "Mr. X, will you please tell me what these are?"

X: "Well, they appear to be cards."

Prosecution: "Appea? What do you mean by "appear?" Are they cards, or are they not cards?"

X: "Well, what I mean is, it looks as if they might be cards."

Prosecution: "Please tell the court, in your expert opinion, whether these are cards, or not."

X: "It seems to me they might be cards."

Prosecution: "We're trying to establish what they are, Mr. X. Are they cards, or aren't they?"

X: "If I had to guess, I'd say they might be cards."

Prosecution: "Don't guess, Mr. X! You're the expert witness, here - tell us what these two things are!"

X: "It appears to me..."



Moral of the story: Some people, whether by disposition, or by training, are unable to equivocably state anything.

Can you imagine being married to someone like that?

"Honey? Are you coming to bed?"

"Well, I've thought I might come to bed..."

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If I set the budget, we'd have Ares and more. Unfortunately, I don't set the budget, and Ares is just too expensive and too far out for us to accomplish our goals within the budget we were given.

If we halt the ISS, all versions of Ares, and transport Orion and Altair aboard DIRECTv3's Jupiter family of Shuttle-Derived Launch Vehicles, we just might make it back to the Moon by 2020.

schlaugh: I understand what you're saying, but it appears that the links are pointing to a changing story, so it's pretty much impossible to point out some of the finer points as to why this was worded funny.

I know it's a developing story, but certain facts tend to go with certain other facts, and the question of the authenticity on this one seemed to be a major point that was only indicated through the single word of "possible".

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No disagreement; the content is all over the place.

A few minutes ago CNN declared that Fosset's ID had been found but now it says ID bearing Steve Fossett's name found.

The better headline in all cases - and even the lead - would have been simply that Steve Fosset's identification may have been found, and then go on to describe the facts as known or reported to the writers.

But as you say, it's a developing story and the new-found materials are unauthenticated right now.

I really don't see a difference between the two. To me, an ID bearing somebody's name is that person's ID.

Like USAToday.
Actually; CNN has more of a habit* of saying something wild in the headline and you read the article and it reads as "well, not really. We really mean..."
Usually though, it's done by quoting a word in the headline.

*(they all do it but I think CNN does it most)

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Unless:
1) it belongs to some other person also named Steve Fossett or
2) it is a hoax.

Both possibilities are quite likely when dealing with a famous, missing, and presumed dead, person.

NEOWatcher: the ID that I have in my wallet is my ID, the real thing. If you faked my ID, that would be an ID bearing my name (unless you're really an amateur ), but it would not be my ID... Also another person with the same name's ID would not be my ID.

edit: major ToSeek in a microscopic timeframe.

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To the regular visitor of internet bulletin boards it is clear that it's an excellent idea your parents get to choose your real name.

This isn't the Steve Fossett we're looking for.
</Jedi mind trick>

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Ok; granted. I guess I had my blinders folded in the headline only. In the context of a headline, there's only so many words, so things tend not to be exact.
But in the text of the article, I would be in full agreement with you.

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