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Old 13-October-2007, 02:48 AM
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I'm writing a paper for school. In it, an imaginary friend named Myra and myself discuss the issue of the Bermuda Triangle. "She'll present the arguements and I'll present the facts."
Here's what I have so far
Myra: Do we both agree that the BT exists?
Kai: The area known by that name certainly exists, but whether or not there's anything unusual about it is another story.
M: Fair enough. Columbus' sailors reported strange lights and mermaids.
K: The report of the lights sounds like a meteor shower. We all know how sailors in the olden days thought sea cows were mermaids. Their scientific name, Sirenia is even from the Sirens, mermaids of Greek mythology.
M: You're a scuba diver, you must admit that there are many shipwrecks in the area.
K: Yes, it's a busy route and accidents are likely to happen. Especially since the Caribean is hurricane prone, and in the olden days, the hurricane cycle was not understood.
M: But the search and rescue operations didn't find any wreckage.
K: The Gulf Stream was not widely understood until recently. It could have moved debris that was floating or in the water collum out of the search area. Also, remember that scuba gear is still a relatively new invention. We've only had it for fifty years or so, and the ocean is very big. Today, we have found a lot of wrecks, and PADI says Bermuda is one of the biggest places to get their Wreck Diver specialty.
M: We can't discuss this matter without getting into Flight 19. From what I read in a book, five well-trained pilots disapeared on a sunny afternoon.
K: Actually, it was quite stormy and they were still in training.
M: Then why did the book say that?
K: Because that's what sells books.

I want to make this as complete as possible. Any ideas on what to touch upon?
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Old 13-October-2007, 02:50 AM
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Didn't Galileo try something similar?

Just remember what happened...
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Old 14-October-2007, 03:10 AM
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Just remember what happened...
Did his teacher give him an "F"?
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I added some real great lines to it today, like:
Myra: Maybe the government is covering it up...
Kai: The same government that looses your mom's tax returns.

Kai: It has to do with the root of all evil.
Myra: Broccoli?
Kai: No, the love of money. Broccoli is quite good with garlic and butter.
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When is this due? It would be disappointing if you got a great idea from this forum after you turned it in.

Anyway, at the risk of being too late:

I would add in all the other "triangles" that have been mentioned throughout the years, and somehow mention the relationship to the major shipping routes, dangerous waters, or whatever. Also mention if one were a true mystery then the world is covered in mystery (at least in context since we all know the world is a mystery)
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Old 15-October-2007, 08:13 PM
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Or you could write what the real problem is;
Residual energy from the submereged city of Atlantis is to blame for the mysteries surrounding the Bermuda Triangle. Unfortunately, at the moment the city sank to it's quick and complete demise, the City's cloaking device was active, making it nearly impossible for modern day explorers to pinpoint it's location. The lights in the sky come from the ancestors of the few survivors who fled to higher ground, as they search for the cities remains.
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Old 15-October-2007, 11:02 PM
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When is this due? It would be disappointing if you got a great idea from this forum after you turned it in.
November First.
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mention the relationship to the major shipping routes, dangerous waters, or whatever.
Already did it.
Also, when "Myra" argued about seeing "flying saucers" in Mayan carvings, I asked her:
Kai: Did you ever see a cloud that looked like a dragon?
Myra: Yeah...
Kai: And was it a real dragon?
Myra: No, just my imagination.
Kai: There you have it. Our minds look for familiar shapes. It's how we recognize our parents. I've seen hieroglyphics that look like computer headsets. Does that mean the Maya had Plantronics headsets?
Myra: Of course not! I never thought of it that way!
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I think Myra is too easy going. You should get her to be more obstinant.
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Old 16-October-2007, 01:39 AM
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I think Myra is too easy going. You should get her to be more obstinant.
She's not some random woo-woo that I challenged to a debate, she's supposed to be my gal pal and we're talking about it as friends, in a Betty-and-Veronica type way.
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Ok I think you should have Myra be the smart one and you be the question teller. That way the people in your class won't think your a show-off.
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-Wonky compass readings (problem with not understanding magnetic declination, or magnetic north vs north star alignment)

-"Candle lights" moving up and down (cooking fires of Taino natives according to wiki)

these items from the wiki article:
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-The number of ships and aircraft reported missing in the area was not significantly greater, proportionally speaking, than in any other part of the ocean.
-In an area frequented by tropical storms, the number of disappearances that did occur were, for the most part, neither disproportionate, unlikely, nor mysterious; furthermore, Berlitz and other writers would often fail to mention such storms.
-The numbers themselves had been exaggerated by sloppy research. A boat listed as missing would be reported, but its eventual (if belated) return to port may not be reported.
-Some disappearances had in fact, never happened. One plane crash was said to have taken place in 1937 off Daytona Beach, Florida, in front of hundreds of witnesses; a check of the local papers revealed nothing.
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Old 16-October-2007, 02:03 AM
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Ok I think you should have Myra be the smart one and you be the question teller. That way the people in your class won't think your a show-off.
I'm not reading it to the class, just handing it in to the teacher.
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-The number of ships and aircraft reported missing in the area was not significantly greater, proportionally speaking, than in any other part of the ocean.
-In an area frequented by tropical storms, the number of disappearances that did occur were, for the most part, neither disproportionate, unlikely, nor mysterious; furthermore, Berlitz and other writers would often fail to mention such storms.
-The numbers themselves had been exaggerated by sloppy research. A boat listed as missing would be reported, but its eventual (if belated) return to port may not be reported.
Nailed it.
I also read Berlitz's book last year. Scared the kookie out of me.
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Finished the project today. Added in a manila folder with "Documents" written on it in red marker showing some relevant photos. Thanks for the help.
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Just remember what happened...
Tell me, Mike Alexander, did Galileo's teacher say "Very creative, Mr. Galilei, but I wanted more of a traditional research paper. I am going to give you a 75."
Because that's what happened to me.
I can't remember the last time I got a 75.
:-(
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That's because BAUT doesn't use a grading system!
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Tell me, Mike Alexander, did Galileo's teacher say "Very creative, Mr. Galilei, but I wanted more of a traditional research paper. I am going to give you a 75."
Because that's what happened to me.
I can't remember the last time I got a 75.
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Your teacher called you Mr. Galilei?

Sorry to hear your grades were affected. Remember, most teachers don't reward creativity. They reward matching the answers in their textbooks. Sad, but true. There are a rare few who do, but they're all dead now.
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I'm waiting for the sequel: Kai and Myra vs Alien and Predator: The Final Battle. In this one the Aliens and Predators have decided to join forces in order to defeat the Deadly Duo. (The Velociraptors from Jurrasic Park were asked to join with the Aliens and Predators but they declined, deeming it a no-win situation.)
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(The Velociraptors from Jurrasic Park were asked to join with the Aliens and Predators but they declined, deeming it a no-win situation.)
But the negotiations wiped out whole planets.
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OT: Just thinking . . . It would be a good match-up - Alien vs Velociraptor. They're about the same size and according to some paleontologists, velociraptors might have been quite intelligent . . . Hmmmm.
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Bad grades aren't a big deal if we can just Save Arecibo!
(Go to the Planetary Society Weblog if you don't know what I am talking about.)
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