anyone else do this? do you have any problems?

I'm using IE right now.

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2.0.0.9? Yeah, I'm using it without any trouble at all. What's the trouble, other than you seem to be stuck in IE-land?

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2.0.0.9 here too, I've noticed no problems so far.

it won't load a page. only happened immediately after updating.

no problems before.

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usually my firewall asks me if I want to allow the newest versions, but I just uninstalled it and am running no firewall right now.


edit***

weird, that firewall was NOT running I swear. So I loaded it, allowed firefox's newest version, and now it works.


how weird

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It took it a few tries over a couple days to actually install. I think my wife had FF open in her account and it thought she still had it open after I logged her off via the task manager.

Sorry, can't help, Windows girl.

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I'm using Firefox 2.0.9 on Windows 2000. No problems.

Firefox runs just fine under Windows. I'm doing it right now.

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actually, it normally runs better than InternetExplorer

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Firefox 2.0.0.9 loaded without a hitch and has been running smoothly since. OS is Windows 2000, SP4.

As for what the new version fixed, go here.

Meanwhile, IE is GREAT!...for allowing all sorts of spyware, malware, adware, and other nasties into your system, quite a few with the apparent blessings of MacroSlush.

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Yawn.

I use IE, have for years, during which I've had no walware (...) that I've ever noticed. That includes going to sites like GLP (which Ive set as a non-trusted site).


For a list of why Firefox 2.0.0.9 is perfect (but 2.0.0.8 wasn't) see here: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox.../releasenotes/

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IE7 is a nice internet browser, I just prefer firefox. IE7 is definitely a vast improvement over IE6 though.

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i prefer Firefox because it's just faster.. and knowing that Mr Gates' people have to work just that much harder to monitor my every move is just the icing on the cake.
now, if we could just get Microsoft to sell a full featured version of XP Pro without IE on it at all- for under $50- life would be good. yes, i know that Windoze Exploder is tied in with Internet Exploder, but Firefox also works for finding stuff on your computer, too..

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It would appear you don't surf much. I used IE for years too, and got fed up with all the leaks. What a change/improvement when I switched to Mozilla/Netscape/Firefox.

Occasionally I'd have to go back to IE to update Windows and then immediately have to purge my system of all the crap that was let in.I guess you were so busy forcing that yawn that you didn't notice I already posted that link.

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Look, I'm not going to get into MS bashing at all. I just think Firefox is better. For years I used IE. It was fine. I saw no reason to change. But I tried Firefox and found it was better.

Moral of the story? If you like IE better, fine. If you like Firefox better, fine too. Just don't insult each other over something so petty as preference. And please don't insult a company for making a product no one is forcing you to use.

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One doesn't have to insult MicroStealth.

All one needs to do is list all their attempts to monopolize the PC market. And to foist bloatware on the end users. And to market as new something other software companies have had for years. And to rush barely beta products to market and let the customers be the testers. And...

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Nope, you're not forced to use it, but you damn well better have it installed on your computer so that your OS and many applications will run.

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So download Linux. Nothing's stopping you. I just don't understand why anyone would attack a company for making a product that is not mandatory to use.

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Just mandatory to pay for.

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anyone who uses computers, then it's possible that it didn't pay
anything to Microsoft. Otherwise, it did. It didn't have a choice.

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I'm not looking to throw fuel on this, but I do have to comment:

My objections to IE have very little to do with Microsoft as a company. IE has a long and very demonstrable history of rampant insecurity. Severe holes unpatched for months or years. The fact of it is, IE's broken at the design level, and the unnatural "integration" with the OS means that the consequences of a security breach are likely to be massive. They've been making some progress since their competition forced them to, but it's been grudging.

That their other software is equally insecure, bloated, and unpatched* does not improve that situation. (* I can itemize serious and obvious bugs that I've been aware of in Word 97 and still persist to this day.)

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My objections to Microsoft have nothing to do with their software. It has everything to do with their predatory behavior and with their long-term relationship with me as a customer. Both have been abusive. Significantly so. My goodwill, once lost, returns very slowly and only by earning it. Microsoft has not attempted to do so. Thus...

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So buy a Mac. Don't want a Mac? Well, you've chosen a PC with MS software on it over a Mac. Chosen. Clearly you've weighed the different costs and benefits, and the PC with MS software came out on the top.

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It isn't quite that simplistic.

Why not? It seems to me that there is a clear choice here. If you want the benefits that MS software provides more than you do not want their drawbacks, you will use the MS software. If you feel the downsides outweigh the good aspects of the software, you will use something else. There must be some value to MS software, otherwise no one would use it.

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Availability and compatability.

The market is not filled with choices. You got like two, maybe three. And they are not completely compatable with eachother.

Yes, those are the benefits of MS software. Running Windows lets you have access to one heck of a lot of hardware and software. It also has flaws. You know that going in. But you choose Windows anyway for the benefits and despite the drawbacks. You could go Mac or Linux, but you don't - you want the benefits MS brings.

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To some extent- that is not a choice.

You cannot always refer to compatability as a benefit. If businesses all went microsoft- because it was DIRT CHEAP - you are constrained to have to have compatability- like it or not.

No, it is a choice. One option is just a lot better than the others.

How is that not a benefit? When would you ever choose (on its own, mind you) to not have compatibility? And isn't it a good thing that compatibility - which I maintain is always good - is driven by an economic mechanism?

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Ok

A choice under semi-duress is a choice.
Got it.

ETA: You are right- as much as you are wrong. Point is- it is a choice- just like I choose to pay taxes or I choose to go to jail if a I commit a crime.

While I recognize that this is probably a half-sarcastic comment, yes. This is exactly what I mean. Just because you have to choose between a good option and a bad one does not mean you have no choice.

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