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Old 01-December-2007, 12:51 AM
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Default Correspondence with string theory?

Bogie, as I think you know, there is a very extensive 'landscape' predicted by string theory - some ~10^500 possible different universes, perhaps.

It may be possible - working from your idea towards this string theory landscape, or from the landscape towards your idea, or both - that some kind of correspondence could be established. If so, then, at some level, it could be said that your idea might be consistent with string theory.

One consequence of any such correspondence might be that you don't need to abandon belief in GR ... if only because all string theories (in the landscape) are consistent with GR (in the appropriate limit).
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Old 01-December-2007, 05:00 PM
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This may be somewhat OT, but I think it does have some bearing on how to go about doing something about a compulsion.

In the Q&A thread Driven Bipolar outlows there is an example of frustration and (perhaps) obsession and, once again, of the obsession not being broken or fruitfully re-directed (from the POV of BAUT's scope). Here is an extract of my post #43 in that thread:Bogie, it seems that the most direct path, given your compulsion, is one you are unwilling or unable to take - investment of your time in learning the key parts of modern physics of direct pertinence to the cosmological realm of your idea. I will be the first to admit that this physics involves complicated and difficult subjects, and that getting a good grasp of them will take years. But if your compulsion is truly that strong, do you have any choice but to embark on such an educational journey?

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You are somewhat right about that. You know the most about me of anyone here, from my posts and some conveyed via PMs from a year or two past where I explained what I was up to. Then and now I still am dealing with the imponderables. Knowing what the imponderables are requires a slightly different path from knowing the body of knowledge that brings us to the fringes of science where the imponderables lie.

Science at its best goes only just so far to describe the universe for us. They provide us a fantastic journey that would not just take years to fully complete, but life times, and that would be if it stood still. But there are some places that science can’t go and to a large degree won’t willing help others go. I am not just interested in making it up though. My story must satisfy my personal criteria of reasonable and responsible. That is where I go unashamed.

Beyond the scientific body of knowledge and accepted theory are the imponderable fringes of science. 75% of my BAUT footprint in the past has been work on learning what and where the fringe is. I post ideas in an effort to find people with talent who are willing to help. Sometimes I get lucky and a passing poster will leave a tidbit about why I’m wrong and where to look. You have been most helpful. But sometimes the “help” comes from posters with even lower standards than my own in regard to reasonable and responsible. The whole process has been fun but it frustrates BAUT posters for one thing, and for another, I want to move on. Step one, putting what I have on CD-R is closure.

I am going to take a few months and complete step one. During that time I will pose some questions in G&A and may continue recreational posting here and there, but I know it is futile to try to draw out responses to what I find is hard work and what you find … well here is the first few paragraphs of the CD-R (no ATM ideas included).

A Grand Unification Story that is Not Even Wrong
(Speculation for the entertainment of the author and friends only)

“Science seeks but has not found a Grand Unification Theory that accounts for all of the forces known to man within the framework and characteristics of one simple elementary energy particle. This is my personal version of unification and the universe that it enables. Here it is, well in advance of the real theory. Until the real thing comes along you are welcome to use mine.”

“But be warned, the term not even wrong appears right in the title. No even wrong is the phrase used by science to describe the efforts of someone like me who offers no proof, little or no relevant math and an almost complete disconnect from the jargon, continuity and rigor of science itself.”

Nereid, you see this is not intended for its scientific value since there is none anyway. It is intended to fill my mental space with an opinion of the whole universe and how it works beyond science. From there I am anxious to move on to the universal story of life, the mind, and the related imponderables; a writing that will be equally useless to anyone but me and my friends (as if I had any who didn't fall asleep when I talk about this stuff).

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So, are you going over to the dark side*, Bogie?

More seriously, what did you think of my suggestions about studying some HPS, or even some philosophy^?

*Nereid has an appallingly bad track record of people reading the correct intended meaning into what she writes; let's see if this is an exception!
^not a few BAUT members will go (shudder) at this point; no matter.
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:chuckle: Yes, to the dark side where I belong .

I do enjoy HPS. The shot gun approach better describes my way of learning though. As for philosophy, I stay away from it because everybody has their own opinion . No really, the body of knowledge leaves me cold and I find I am not interested in reading it. I'm pretty sure that no one in the philosophy forums will be interested in mine since my credentials are the same there as in the realm of physics.

[joke]As for people getting the wrong meaning from what you say ... now that I know your gender, I understand. [/joke]

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:chuckle: Yes, to the dark side where I belong .

I do enjoy HPS. The shot gun approach better describes my way of learning though. As for philosophy, I stay away from it because everybody has their own opinion . No really, the body of knowledge leaves me cold and I find I am not interested in reading it. I'm pretty sure that no one in the philosophy forums will be interested in mine since my credentials are the same there as in the realm of physics.

[joke]As for people getting the wrong meaning from what you say ... now that I know your gender, I understand. [/joke]
I know there is a lot I don't understand about BAUT and one of those things is that I didn't get any responses to this post .

Oh well, I'm over to the dark side even though I don't know what Nereid meant by "the dark side".

Just to update my progress at overcoming my compulsion, I am working on the CD-R. I have finally defined the ISU in terms of simple math: Space = space +1, time = T +or- 1. These statements define an infinite universe spatially and define time as infinite both forward and back. At any point in time and space, space S still equals space +1, and time T still allows T +or- 1.

The universe equals = (S = S +1 combined with T = T +or-1 at any point in space and time).
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Old 26-December-2007, 01:25 AM
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:chuckle: Yes, to the dark side where I belong .
Buy a black light, you will.


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The what approach?
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How else to expand your horizons?
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I'm pretty sure that no one in the philosophy forums will be interested in mine since my credentials are the same there as in the realm of physics.
If you buy them lunch, they will accept a Degree from McDU.
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I know there is a lot I don't understand about BAUT and one of those things is that I didn't get any responses to this post .
<Puts a checkmark by his name on the "I made Bogie feel loved" list>
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Old 26-December-2007, 01:32 AM
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Great post Neverfly. I'm buying lunch for anyone willing to talk ISU (Infinite Spongy Universe), I do have papers from McDU, and I now feel loved. Christmas is complete!
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