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Old 30-January-2008, 04:46 PM
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The co-pilot of a Heathrow-bound plane was dragged kicking and screaming from the cockpit after suffering a mental breakdown while in control of the flight.

He began yelling and "invoking God" as the Air Canada 767 flew at 37,000 feet over the Atlantic. He was held down by other crew members and a passenger, a member of the Canadian armed forces.
The co-pilot then had restraints fastened to his wrists and ankles and was handcuffed to a seat. The flight from Toronto made an emergency landing in Shannon and the co-pilot, who had been crying and screaming according to witnesses, was taken off the plane.
But; the airline official makes me feel much better...
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Air Canada today insisted passengers' lives were never at risk.
Peter Fitzpatrick, an Air Canada spokesman, said today: "The co-pilot fell ill during the flight and the captain elected to divert. The aircraft landed without incident. At no time were the safety of the passengers or crew in question." He refused to be drawn on whether the pilot had suffered a breakdown.
Uhm...
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Uhm...

This is why there are two people in the front of the plane.

When the dude riding shotgun finds God as he's swandiving off the deep end, there's still someone with his wits about him to continue driving...
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We´ve been discovering, lately, that astronauts and pilots are human beings, to our utter displeasure...
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This is why there are two people in the front of the plane...
I understand that... and in most circumstances I wouldn't think twice about it, and I'm sure the plane was in autopiloot, or was switched on rather quickly.
But; this case sounds like there was one heck of a struggle in the cockpit, and there was more at issue than just having somebody be able to control the plane.
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We´ve been discovering, lately, that astronauts and pilots are human beings, to our utter displeasure...
I find it perfectly acceptable, to be honest. Maybe someday that'll occur to people and we'll see fewer idiotic lawsuits and torte lawyers will join the ranks of other failed lawyers in politics to put food on the table...bleh, I'm dreaming again...
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When the dude riding shotgun finds God as he's swandiving off the deep end, there's still someone with his wits about him to continue driving...
...but not always:

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The National Transportation Safety Board determines that the probable cause of the EgyptAir flight 990 accident is the airplane's departure from normal cruise flight and subsequent impact with the Atlantic Ocean as a result of the relief first officer's flight control inputs. The reason for the relief first officer's actions was not determined.
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http://www.ntsb.gov/ntsb/brief.asp?e...22X00388&key=1

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Yes; Why can't they say that. I would have had more respect for the airline if the spokesman said something like:
It was an unfortunate personal situation that we could not foresee, but the crew was successful at keeping things safe and under control.
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We´ve been discovering, lately, that astronauts and pilots are human beings, to our utter displeasure...
Right. Screening/training/etc should minimize these types of incodents...and I believe it does, otherwise stories like this wouldn't be so "newsworthy"... but unfortunately people are always going to be people.
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Yes; Why can't they say that. I would have had more respect for the airline if the spokesman said something like:
It was an unfortunate personal situation that we could not foresee, but the crew was successful at keeping things safe and under control.
My first thought also. Instead we get the pablum line about never being any risk. There is no moment in life that is completely without risk.

Whenever you hear PR staff or "spokes" people babble like that you can be sure of one thing - nothing they say will be of significant substance.

What in the world do "spokes" people do when there are no news conferences or disasters or lawsuits going on? Do they just kind of hang out thinking of the "correct" thing to say for every possible scenario?
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Whenever you hear PR staff or "spokes" people babble like that you can be sure of one thing - nothing they say will be of significant substance.

What in the world do "spokes" people do when there are no news conferences or disasters or lawsuits going on? Do they just kind of hang out thinking of the "correct" thing to say for every possible scenario?
They never think of what they say. If they get in front of a mike, they go on auto-pablum mode. "It's all right, everything's fine, nothing's wrong, it's all under control".
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So how were his flying skills affected? The article doesn\'t say.
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