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Old 12-February-2008, 05:31 PM
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I've been doing a lot of research on ancient Mayan culture and astronomy/astrology. When the galactic alignment occurs, what will the environmental changes that will occur?
Will they be as drastic as an Ice Age? Will waterways redirect and change the waters again?

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please stop............. your going to get a list printed off by some guy with numbers in his name in a bit with loads of 2012 topic links on it. he loves doing it!!! mwor ha ha ha ha ha! your part of his collection now...... i can feel it heading this way. Delete the post before much like the borg you will be assimilated.... well I suppose they do the assimilating...... well actually most of the borg have been assimilated i suppose... I dont know i prefer Doctor Who..... anyway lets start again he is the borg and your a star trek extra about to get assimilated.... or something like that... anyway its all good in the hood baby!!! Oh before you get all the responses a quick answer is that nothing will happen and don't worry we are not going to die in a horrible way.
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Hi there. I'm from the International Year-2012-Topic Collectors Society, and I'm here to help.

You may find this useful, a list of some BAUT Forum topics that have touched on the 2012 conjectures and the lack of facts to support same:

2003 no, 2012 si
2012
End of Mayan Calendar
Pole shift / Planetary alignment 2012?
2012 alignment question
about the Mayan 2012 item
2012 Debunking?
Possible asteroid impact in 2012?
2012 asteroid?
We don't have to worry about 2012!
More on 2012 from India Daily
2012 Completion of conspiracy?
Here's what's REALLY going to happen in 2012...
crop circles, Planet X and 2012
Planet X, crop circles and 2012 cataclysma
According to the Mayans, what will happen on 23rd Dec. 2012?
More 2012 Nonsense
NEO 2012?
Dangerous NEO in 2012?
Christmas 2012
2012 mayan calender end of world
Regarding the supposed polar shift/new ice age in 2012
New 2012 threat?
2012 look at this thing on the sun
Russian Expert Predicts Global Cooling from 2012
Pole shift idea origins
Dec 20 2012
2012 Stuff
Horizon Project-New End of World Scare?
Date: December 21st 2012
Earth passing thru Galactic center in 2012 - didn't that already happen?
2012: What do you think well happen (if anything)
So what will we see in 2012?
Galactic Tsunami?
Plane of the ecliptic of the galaxy?
Earth's Magnetic Field & 2012
2012?
Any truth to this?
How can the sun be aligned with Galactic centre?
the whole 2012 poles flip nonsense
Planet X Official Advertisement
What year are we in
Quick question about the sun
Galactic Alignment
Books of 2012! -
2007 = 2012
Return of Planet X By Rand
Don Alejandro - Mayan Elder.
Toutatis 4179: 2012?
Galactic Alignment in 2012 ?
Solar Storms
A real prediction!
NIBURU - Brown Dwarf, The DESTROYER
2012 Galactic Alignment

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And, as reported by Gillianren elsewhere:
Straight Dope: Does the Mayan calendar predict the end of the world in 2012?

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So when the Long Count calendar hits its limit on the 23rd (or 21st) of December four years from now, will that be it – the end of everything? There's no reason to think so, or to think the Mayans thought so. Just picture a very large and complex odometer flipping over to a long line of zeros and continuing on from there.
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Hi Pieceofthestars, welcome to BAUT.

One other thing. On top of the nonsense that there is "an end" to the Mayan calendar, there also is no "galatic alignment", and such a concept is close to nonsense.
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According to a lot of these 2012 guys, the Schumann resonance is shooting up and all our brains will enter a new state in 2012. Funny thing though, all the sites that actually measure the Schumann resonance show none of the changes claimed by these people with big imaginations. The Mayan 2012 is nothing different to the clock ticking over from 1999 to 2000 in the Christian calendar. About all that will happen is that a bunch of people will do some silly things and then the world will go on as before. The computers will keep working too unless there is a Y2.012 K bug.
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About all that will happen is that a bunch of people will do some silly things and then the world will go on as before.
I remember filling my bath tub with water on New Years Eve, 'cos the computers controlling the water treatment plant were gonna fail or some such crap!
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Just as scientists can see/predict when an asteroid or comet is heading in our viewpoint, they can surely use computer models to predict galatic alignment, and it is indeed probable and likely.

the mayan calendar doesn't predict the end of the world, it talks about the end of one era into another, a new beginning. the mayans accurately predicted astrological/astronomical events before they occured. How is this possible, cycles! Everything is a cycle. Approximately every 25,000-26,000 years this alignment occurs.

so instead of turning my hypothetically and realistic questions into a mockery, do some research.

thank you to those who gave me useful information.
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pieceofthestars,

You are correct that the Mayans could predict some astronomical events, such as lunar eclipses. Anyone with good record keeping, math, and a good calendar can do that. There is absolutely no evidence that they even knew what a galaxy was.

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Will they be as drastic as an Ice Age? Will waterways redirect and change the waters again?
They are not realistic questions, there is no evidence that anything special will happen in 2012. And if you read through any of the threads listed above, you will see the whole concept of a galactic alignment is vague at best.

But, if you have any evidence to the contrary, we would be more than happy to take a look at it.
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I've been doing a lot of research on ancient Mayan culture and astronomy/astrology. When the galactic alignment occurs, what will the environmental changes that will occur?
Will they be as drastic as an Ice Age? Will waterways redirect and change the waters again?

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First, welcome to the BAUT!

Second, there will be no "galactic alignment" or any other sort of thing on the date specified.

Please see my prior post on this subject.

If you are familiar with such things as the ecliptic and the galactic equator, then it will be obvious there will be no "galactic alignment" in 2012, except perhaps in the minds of some folks who really need to learn more about astronomy (we're here to to help with that), or who are trying to make a buck off deceiving the public (see The List above).

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so instead of turning my hypothetically and realistic questions into a mockery, do some research.

thank you to those who gave me useful information.
It's been done. Where is yours?

Please define galatic alignment (and assuming you meant galactic), and explain the mechanics.
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Just as scientists can see/predict when an asteroid or comet is heading in our viewpoint, they can surely use computer models to predict galatic alignment, and it is indeed probable and likely.

the mayan calendar doesn't predict the end of the world, it talks about the end of one era into another, a new beginning. the mayans accurately predicted astrological/astronomical events before they occured. How is this possible, cycles! Everything is a cycle. Approximately every 25,000-26,000 years this alignment occurs.

so instead of turning my hypothetically and realistic questions into a mockery, do some research.

thank you to those who gave me useful information.
Actually you will find a lot of useful information on the sites listed as to why mainstream science does not believe that 2012 is significant. So there is a bit of criticism, well that is what science does best ... it evaluates any new idea on the best information available at the time.

It does pop up here quite often and so for someone new it may be a bit of a shock but don't let that put you off science ... welcome to BAUT pieceofthestars. There are some lively discussions going on right now about this topic in other areas of the forum and one in the CT section with one of the co-authors of Planet X.

Perhaps it is one of those things that will be more apparent on the day after it has happened. I have my reasons for being interested too.
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Perhaps it is one of those things that will be more apparent on the day after it has happened. I have my reasons for being interested too.
For anybody who is convinced that something significant will happen; please tell me what it is. Depending on your predictions, I may be open to taking some bets - - even some relatively big ones.

Seriously; I'll have a lawyer draw up some papers to make it official and we'll put the money in escrow. Winner take all.

Pick your date, name the event. I'm all ears and ready to put up cash.
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Perhaps it is one of those things that will be more apparent on the day after it has happened. I have my reasons for being interested too.
For anybody who is convinced that something significant will happen; please tell me what it is. Depending on your predictions, I may be open to taking some bets - - even some relatively big ones.

Seriously; I'll have a lawyer draw up some papers to make it official and we'll put the money in escrow. Winner take all. Pick your date, name the event. I'm all ears and ready to put up cash.
I'll second that. What significant event is supposed to occur the day after the "galactic alignment"? Or are we just going to get some new agey mumbo-jumbo about spiritual awakening or some such rubbish?

Anybody remember the "Harmonic Convergence" that was supposed to occur on 1987 August 16? Lots of new age suckers standing around on Macchu Pichu and other "spiritual" sites. (Don't forget Graceland!) I feel so much better looking out at the world and seeing what the Harmonic Convergence has wrought!

A quick note: I did a brief Google on "Harmonic Convergence" just to make sure I remembered the name of this non-event correctly. The Google summary lists on the first page a site (I won't give a link to it, I won't waste my time there) that claims that this "Harmonic Convergence" won't be complete until some 26-year cycle has passed. And 1987 + 26 years is, you guessed it, 2013, after this "galactic alignment". All old superstitions are new age now.
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You may find this useful, a list of some BAUT Forum topics that have touched on the 2012 conjectures and the lack of facts to support same:

*snip o'da links*

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I was going to make my own 2012 thread, but then I thought better, so I will post it here!


Something very strange will happen in 2012, on April 13th infact...





I will turn 34 and that means I will have entered my mid 30's
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I've been doing a lot of research...
Wait a minute---you did the research and are asking us for conclusions?
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A depiction of this 'alignment' would be nice.
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I'm not that much of a veteran around here. I read for a long time before I ever made my first post. It continues to amaze me when people bring up items that have been discussed to death and expect them to be treated as though this was the first time the claim/question was brought up.

That being said, welcome to the board, pieceofthestars. I highly recommend randomly searching for topics you may have questions about. You are almost certain to find very lengthy threads discussing many of those topics already existing. Don't be too shy - but also don't be surprised if you get a fair amount of, "not that again" responses.
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In 2012, we party like it's 1999!


EDIT: I accidentally wrote 20212 at first. If I'm still around then, I'll have good reason to party.
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[Snip!] Something very strange will happen in 2012, on April 13th in fact...

I will turn 34 and that means I will have entered my mid 30's
Stranger things have happened. Hope we all make it to then ... and beyond!
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I was going to make my own 2012 thread, but then I thought better, so I will post it here!


Something very strange will happen in 2012, on April 13th infact...





I will turn 34 and that means I will have entered my mid 30's
Gee...thanks...I feel better knowing my 34th is in about three months....
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And, as reported by Gillianren elsewhere . . . .
I knew that link would come in handy! I also knew that, if I didn't post it in the first even vaguely relevant thread, I'd forget it.

Yeah, Doodler, that picture pretty much summed up my reaction to the first paragraph, too. It's not that we're trying to make fun of you, Pieceofthestars. Really, we're not. We're all just sick to death of the idea, and we've got over four years to go. (Four years and, what, ten months?) And we all know that, no matter how many people we educate on the subject, and no matter how many clarifications about what, exactly, people mean by phrases like "galactic alignment," we're still going to get . . . by the end of this particular hysteria, I expect there to have been literally hundreds of threads started on the subject.
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. . . by the end of this particular hysteria, I expect there to have been literally hundreds of threads started on the subject.
And dozens more started on the next "end of the world".
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And dozens more started on the next "end of the world".
How many Apopleptic 2029 threads do we have, anyway? We might be two or so EOTW scenarios out by now...
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I wonder if there is an over/under line on the EOTW?

Maybe in Vegas?
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It's like a game show; "whover gets closest without going over..."
Well, they'll never be able to collect their winnings, will they?
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Love it! Must remember to use it. Maybe 01101001 should start tracking these threads as well as the 2012 ones ...
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Love it! Must remember to use it. Maybe 01101001 should start tracking these threads as well as the 2012 ones ...
I don't think I'll live to see the end of that list.
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