ok i know this 2012 stuff is so old now and so much discussed that all of you will be tired of this by now but still i have to ask you all this as this is the only forum on which i have some trust of getting the right info.. my question is that y do all the regilions in the world like iching of china and the hinduism and islam and budhism and christiantiy and also that webbot project and ofcourse our most popular mayan culture point towards the same 2012 year. i mean its difficult to think of this as just a mere co-incidence that all point to same date considering all these cultures had no contact and most have many years of time difference between them. ofcourse webbot is not a religion but I thought of including this here.. i personally think that its kind of not right for the world to end in 2012 or even for a big change to occur which will change our lives or watever but then these kind of things as I wrote above kind of goes against that belief..

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Huh? I'm not sure about the other religions, but according to Biblical prophecy the world should have ended more than 19 centuries ago. Where did you get the idea all these religions point to 2012?

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Good Question.

And Hoaxorreal... didn't you already ask about 2012? Or was that a different topic and I'm losing it?

My prediction for 2012. Stuff happens, it will get dark at night. 2013 comes around and a lot of hangovers 1/1/13..... spooky, 1/1/13, 3 ones and a three?

it was on history channel and i also saw that on some sites sometime ago but i am still searching for those sites again as i dont remember anymore but it was on history channel

hinduism
christianity
islam
iching
webbot
budhism
nostradamus

they mentioned about all of this pointing to same year

oh and yes i didnt ask about 2012.. my only other post was about the new planets found by nasa in some other solar systems

Oh ok. Yeah I went and looked. The other was Pieceofthestars that started it.
Well.. 01101001 or hheb09' will be able to produce a gargantuan list of 2012 topics that have been discussed on BAUT.
I'm not sure about if they cover the major religions but they do cover a LOT.

As far as the religions goes- it sounds like hype that was blown up a tailpipe.

Can you give specific references and cites for how each religion all predicts disastrous events in 2012?

If you think about it logically- a very disproved thing such as 2012 requires its supporters to cherry pick and (yes they do this) make up stuff to try to shore up the collapsing timbers.

The short answer is: no, they don't.

The longer answer is that it's actually trivial to verify from a Christianity and Judaism standpoint. Simply read Revelations. No explicit year for the end of the world is mentioned. Like most predictions/prophesies, the only hints offered are vague and highly subject to interpretation.

Not even the Mayans believed the world was going to end in 2012. Their calendar would simply roll over when they hit the end.

And like the vast majority of predictions and prophesies, they're nearly always conveniently forgotten, or blatantly rescheduled, or outright lied about, by the time they fail to come true.

It might be a bit before your time, but this end-of-world stuff is nothing new. You can almost set your calendar to it. Every three years or so, some group of people try to wind up the rest of the world with this junk for whatever lame reason.

Ignoring Nancy Lieder (when possible), the last big one was May 2007. I may be wrong on the year, it wasn't all that memorable. Supposedly, this rare planetary alignment (with planets on both sides of the sun, mind you), was supposed to topple the Earth on its plane. I think I slept in that morning.

Before that, 2004, Y2K (and then some), 1999, I think I remember writing about one one in 1997. And I vaguely remember those weren't the first ones I'd heard about, I just didn't care enough about it to pay even that much attention.

I do remember the Earth was supposed to, and didn't, roll over at least three separate times over the past few decades.

Even if these claims were true (which they demonstrably aren't, but we're all supposed to be too lazy to do anything but take their word for it, and mostly people don't bother checking), again, not really. Anthropologists and Archaeologists have traced the more vivid myths of religious origins right back to the recorded histories of early Mesopotamian civilizations.

If there was such an end-of-days prediction, there's absolutely no reason at all it couldn't have migrated all over Africa, Europe, and Asia in just a few hundred years.

There really is nothing new under the sun.

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oh well that explains it all... looks like the history channel is losing its credibility of its programs day by day then.. as i said in my first message that i personally dont believe in this 2012 hype but something comes up on such a good channel where you think everything they show is right and true that sometimes you just shut the doors of your own logical thinking. well thanks again for the right info.

My bold. 'Such a good channel' and 'The History Channel' ?????

Edit: If you're getting your education from TV, then you have to be more discriminating - and THC wouldn't be on my list.

Some of us refer to the History channel as the Nazi channel, because mostly what they show are programs about Hitler.

I don't think they ever had any credibility to lose.

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From a personal point of view I find it very hard that someone will get any prophecy bang on the head and that it was predicted rather than guessed at. I will believe chance rather than design or it was meant to happen on events that are claimed as proven but when has there been one that is clear in its description apart from the world ending? I don't pretend to be aware of all the claims.

If you are going to do a prophecy then narrow it down a bit rather than vague inferences to some happening. I would imagine that someone now can with some accuracy predict a few happenings over the years. The main ingredients being the human being and the planet. The human is well known and the planet rocks and shakes and will take the odd hit from stuff. I bet there is a new earthquake tomorrow. They happen all the time. There will be another war and so on.

Just me being skeptical of any claims of future telling. Apologies for the off the cuff comment.

Sure thing, and yeah, History Channel has been running all sorts of anti-knowledge scaremonger woo-garbage for the past few years. I'm not even willing to vouch for the veracity of their WWII documentaries anymore.

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they actually had two things running on this 2012 thing.. one was that 2012 doomsday scenario and other was the nostradamus one... THC is not on my list anymore.. but then talking of credibility here.. how will you rate the credibility of the govt to hide things as serious as end of world on a scale of 1 to 10

Monica Lewinsky.

LOL.. I would rate that on Bill Clintion's "personal" or "very personal" scale

Essentially, in order to hide something that could end the world- it would have to hide the existence of whatever it was that was going to cause it.

If it's astronomical- that means silencing literally millions and millions of people. Impossible. Colleges and Universities and professional and amateur astronomers... Too many people are looking at the sky.

Geological- well then you have the same problem.

There are just way too many independents to shut up.

I would scale it at a very low end of zero.

There's more than one government with competent scientists, hoaxorreal, and most scientists/engineers I know tend to actively resent anything that smacks of political interference, no matter who's doing the interfering. The idea of a conspiracy so ubiquitous as to silence every scientist and engineer worldwide is so unlikely it simply doesn't fit on your 1-10 scale.

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thats why a zero will fit in that scale as it is not in 1 - 10

Of course that doesn't count all the callers that George Noory gets on C2C!

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