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Old 02-April-2008, 03:40 PM
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Default Transhumanism- Opinions and ideas?

It's not a new concept to me, it's actually one I've always thought of highly. I just never heard of this specific label before. I was reading over on Mr. Randi's boards (I lurk there like I do here), and came across a topic discussing transhumanism. I'm starting a post here, mostly because I want to pick the brains of you all here, and see what you think. This topic is extremely interesting to me, probably a bit more than astronomy is to me, even. The original poster for that thread on Randi's boards made the interesting point that it would be far more cost efficient and easier to alter human physiology to survive on other planets, than it would be to alter an entire planet to conform to our needs. What do you all think? (Question is about transhumanism in general, not necessarily restricted to just colonizing other worlds.)
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See Fred Pohl's Man Plus, or Jim Blish's Seedling Stars (esp. the story 'Surface Tension').
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Also Asimov's short story Stranger in Paradise.
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Old 02-April-2008, 04:12 PM
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Robert Reed's Marrow is also a good one. The books are nice and all, but what do you think of altering the human form / dna / machine integration?
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I think that if something can be done, someone somewhere will try to do it. And, as with everything to do with messing with the human body, it'll probably be done wrong a lot more often than it's done right, at least in the beginning.
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I, for one, would absolutely love to have a math co-processor plugged into my brain. A billion float point operations per second would be a decent start. And why not GPS and some kinda commo gear?

#EDIT: Come to think of it, I think the first thing I'd want done is to be infected with a supersplicer designed to rebuild my current DNA in every cell over and over again. I'd be immune from cancer and a lot of aging effects.
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Old 02-April-2008, 05:19 PM
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Allow me to add another question to my OP:

If you could have any genetic / cybernetic / ect modofication done to you, what would you have done first and foremost?
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I would love to have "virtual vision" which features in some recent hard SF: data is sent directly into your optic nerve, and you perceive it as icons, pictures and/or text superimposed on what you actually see -- and you manipulate the icons with virtual "hand" or "pointer" that you move around by thought. When you have to pay close attention to real world, like running through the woods, you turn off most or all of that visual clutter.
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And Clarke's 'A Meeting with Medusa'. Or Anderson's 'Kings Who Die', or Joelle Ky in his novel 'The Avatar'.

If I could have a single improvement it would be an enhanced ability to transfer from short-term to long-term memory. I have associational abilities that I'm perfectly comfortable with, but all my life I've been hung up by the inability to remember stuff to work with it (the internet is not a bad substitute for this).

Plus, I would never lose my keys again
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Like a brain-case flash memory drive, right, Mike? Instead of files it could be like mental snapshots... what you saw, heard, tasted, felt, ect, for a second or two of time. That'd be neat.
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The first technology that will come down the pipes, and soon, is human life extension. Say a life expectancy of about 150 years. And before those people die, they'll probably find another way to extend life. And again. And again.

Needless to say, I plan to live forever.
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Same here, my Canadian buddy. I want to be around long enough to see whether or not proton death happens.
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See the comic Guardians of the Galaxy. That's where their superpowers come from, gen-engineered adaptations to aid colonization.
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Conscious control of memory is probably the one I'd like the most.
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Needless to say, I plan to live forever.
And, as Steven Wright said, so far, my plan is working perfectly.
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I wonder if it would take more than just constant repair of DNA to eliminate aging. Any medical-types around and about that could touch on this part for us?
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Cybernetics: Mechanical muscle supplementation, an artificial heart with both wireless rechargable power as well as a kinetic recharge system built into my arms and legs, fingernail razors and palm contact tasers. I wouldn't mind replacing my teeth with implants that wouldn't decay. My eyes are fine for now, but I would consider upgrades. Ear implants which allow selective sound filtration andcontrollable augmentation. Skeletal reinforcement of the vertebrae and limbs.

Genetic/biological: Correction of genetic factors which increase my susceptibility to cancer, 10" x 2" external plumbing, reduced sensitivity of nerve receptors in my hands Nerve reinforcement in my wrists (carpal tunnel damageproofing). Improved blood filtration and replenishment.
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I would love to have "virtual vision" which features in some recent hard SF: data is sent directly into your optic nerve, and you perceive it as icons, pictures and/or text superimposed on what you actually see -- and you manipulate the icons with virtual "hand" or "pointer" that you move around by thought. When you have to pay close attention to real world, like running through the woods, you turn off most or all of that visual clutter.
Absolutely!
Some kind of augmented reality device would be my choice, too.
I would add an ultra-fast Internet connection.

Biggest challenge: how to process all this additional data.
An increased ability to work with independent 'subroutines' would be great.
For example being able to process several texts simultaneously...
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I wonder if it would take more than just constant repair of DNA to eliminate aging. Any medical-types around and about that could touch on this part for us?
If you subscribe to this podcast by the people at the Long Now Foundation and listen to the one about prospects for human life extension, you'll find that the speaker, an expert in the field, says something very much like I did. Reset the genes, and you extend life expectancy to about 150 years.
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I'd go further. I'd want to be a brain-in-a-tank*, connected to vastly more computational power, which would also become me. Lots of robotic and semi-biological surrogates that I could control via radio.



*With bubbles, for no good reason.
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I think I'd go down the nano-machines in the blood route, when and if that becomes available. Want to change hair colour? eye colour? Got it. Want little computers swimming around in your brain? Got it.
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