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Old 30-April-2008, 01:07 AM
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Default I wonder if nuclear war will break out??

I hope not!

I wonder if Israel/USA will nuke Iran/Syria?
I wonder if USA nukes China?...China nukes USA?

I remember saying in a bar 20 years ago with my friends nobody will drop the bomb..I think I am going to be wrong in the not to distant future!!!

when I was younger I didn't know much and I still don't!

see what happens!!

have a nice day!!!
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Old 30-April-2008, 01:13 AM
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Just out of curiosity, what makes you think that?

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Old 30-April-2008, 01:19 AM
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Because so many people lost their lives at the hands of that organization, and there are no doubt people on BAUT who lost relatives to them, you may need to change your name.
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Old 30-April-2008, 01:34 AM
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Interesting screen name.

And no, I don't think such will happen.
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Old 30-April-2008, 01:35 AM
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what has my name got to do with the thread of a possible nuclear attack??I don't like the thought of a nuclear strike but I cannot do much about it...besides I am not a warmonger I am a collector and have SS memorabilia also my father was in the british army during the war and killed SS in order to survive...and thats why I am here to have my say just like you...it's called freedom.It's just a name,its not meant to draw a response,stop taking things OUT OF CONTEXT!

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Old 30-April-2008, 01:39 AM
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what has my name got to do with the thread of a possible nuclear attack??
We're not free to select whatever names we like on BAUT. It is possible that the moderators may ask you to change yours. Just letting you know.
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Old 30-April-2008, 01:40 AM
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Actually, I think the probability of a LIMITED nuclear war in Middle East during next 20 years is fairly high. Probability of an all-out war between US-Russia-China is pretty much zero.
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Old 30-April-2008, 01:43 AM
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what has my name got to do with the thread of a possible nuclear attack??I don't like the thought of a nuclear strike but I cannot do much about it...besides I am not a warmonger I am a collector and have SS memorabilia also my father was in the british army during the war and killed SS in order to survive...and thats why I am here to have my say just like you...it's called freedom.It's just a name,its not meant to draw a response,stop taking things OUT OF CONTEXT!

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I said like three words: Interesting- Screen - Name.

It seems you are the one flying off the handle and taking things out of context

ETA: Well... that was short lived. I guess I won't be able to look forward to his groveling apology as he begs for my forgiveness...
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Old 30-April-2008, 02:03 AM
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Actually, I think the probability of a LIMITED nuclear war in Middle East during next 20 years is fairly high. Probability of an all-out war between US-Russia-China is pretty much zero.
I must disagree. It is pretty much accepted in military circles That "one flies, they all fly". If, say Israel hits Iran, Pakistan, fearing the loss of the few nukes they have, will lob them at India and vice versa. With all the nukes flying around, China will probably decide that it's a good time to take care of the "Taiwan problem". etc, etc, etc until all the nuclear powers are involved.
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Old 30-April-2008, 02:25 AM
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I must disagree. It is pretty much accepted in military circles That "one flies, they all fly". If, say Israel hits Iran, Pakistan, fearing the loss of the few nukes they have, will lob them at India and vice versa. With all the nukes flying around, China will probably decide that it's a good time to take care of the "Taiwan problem". etc, etc, etc until all the nuclear powers are involved.
Oh c'mon. Folks are not that trigger happy to fling Nukes around.
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Old 30-April-2008, 02:37 AM
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Oh, BTW the OP was a sock puppet. Say bu-bye!
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Old 30-April-2008, 06:42 AM
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Hey, my grandfather died at a concentration camp.


He fell out of a guard tower.


As long as there's oil in the Middle East. There will be NO nuclear bombs droped by either Israel, the US or Iran.
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Old 30-April-2008, 12:56 PM
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If one were banned and/or wishing to engage in sock-puppetry, wouldn't it make sense to choose a name that does not call needless attention to oneself? Hmmm...
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Old 30-April-2008, 01:37 PM
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must disagree. It is pretty much accepted in military circles That "one flies, they all fly". If, say Israel hits Iran, Pakistan, fearing the loss of the few nukes they have, will lob them at India and vice versa. With all the nukes flying around, China will probably decide that it's a good time to take care of the "Taiwan problem". etc, etc, etc until all the nuclear powers are involved.

I don't know what military circles you ran in but the ones in my experience said no such thing. In fact, during the Cold War, there were people on both sides who believed that tactical nuclear warfare was very possible. They developed short range missiles and even artillery shells with nuclear warheads as well as small bombs that could be dropped from tactical aircraft such as the F-105. They didn't believe that a single detonation would lead to all out nuclear war.

As an example, suppose Iran developed a bomb and carries through on it's pledge to use it on Israel. Israel will most definitely counterattack - HARD. Why would that make Pakistan hit India knowing India will respond in kind? Pakistan and India pushed pretty close to the brink several years ago but when they looked into the abyss, they didn't like the view. Since then, both sides have sobered up and the tensions are much less.
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Old 30-April-2008, 01:39 PM
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If one were banned and/or wishing to engage in sock-puppetry, wouldn't it make sense to choose a name that does not call needless attention to oneself? Hmmm...
Are you seriously serching for sense in such posts?
NAHH!!! Can't be..
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Are you seriously searching for sense in such posts? NAHH!!! Can't be..
You're right! What was I thinking?
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My chemistry professor presented a short introductory video to the course at the beginning of the semester. Some army personnel counted down, an artillery shell launched, and a few seconds later a mushroom cloud appeared. So long as the ka-boom weapons keep getting built, the threat of a nuclear war will be real...especially when there are nations who value honor, pride, and religion (not necessarily all at the same time) to an extent that they're willing to spark war.
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Old 30-April-2008, 05:48 PM
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Hey, my grandfather died at a concentration camp.


He fell out of a guard tower.


As long as there's oil in the Middle East. There will be NO nuclear bombs droped by either Israel, the US or Iran.
And once the oil is gone; nobody outside the region will care enough to fight over it.

Hard to say what the locals will do in the long run though. Tactical nukes are a real possibility, if for no other reason than I can't see any peaceful way out of the current mess given the deeply entrenched biases.

I believe the more radical elements in the area will use whatever they can get their hands on; which makes it just a matter of time.
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Old 30-April-2008, 06:06 PM
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One thing to remember, by todays standard, Hiroshima was a fairly large tactical nuke.
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Old 30-April-2008, 06:23 PM
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My chemistry professor presented a short introductory video to the course at the beginning of the semester. Some army personnel counted down, an artillery shell launched, and a few seconds later a mushroom cloud appeared. So long as the ka-boom weapons keep getting built, the threat of a nuclear war will be real...especially when there are nations who value honor, pride, and religion (not necessarily all at the same time) to an extent that they're willing to spark war.

First, I fail to see the relevance of a 1950s nuclear artillery test to a chemistry class, but that's besides the point.

The number of tactical and strategic nuclear warheads is far lower today than during the Cold War. The US and Russia have sharply reduced their weapons inventories.

Simply having the weapons doesn't necessarily mean they'll be used. The US has had nuclear weapons since 1945. We used two of them. The former Soviet Union has had nuclear weapons since 1949. They never dropped one in anger. Both sides realized that using nuclear warheads was a no-win situation. Some people thought one side or the other could use the weapons and survive but that was only if they struck first and struck hard. Fortunately, saner heads prevaled. Having nuclear weapons makes a nation something to be taken seriously. So far, it seems that every nation that has developed nuclear weapons has sobered up about their use (e.g. India-Pakistan). Some argue that nuclear weapons have kept the wars small and limited in scope. It seems likely that without the threat of nuclear warfare, we would not have gone over 60 years without a major war breaking out.
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Old 30-April-2008, 06:24 PM
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Heck, when I was growing up we all expected a nuclear war. I knew how to build improvised bomb (all right, fallout) shelters, use bleach to purify water, and so on.
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