I think we have way too many lawyers. But at the same time I would like to sue the crap out of you if you crashed into me and caused me to be paralyzed.

Although I think we can really cut down on frivolous law suits in the US ... I think our system is pretty good. Let me ask you this ... do you think everyone should be forced to have insurance to drive a car?

I don't have a problem with the insurance laws as much.

The difference is in- are you putting yourself or others into danger?

Saying I MUST wear a seat belt is the same as forbidding me from Bungee Jumping, cliff diving, skydiving or many other activities that are my own business.

Realistically, If I crashed into you and you were NOT wearing your seat belt which caused you to be paralyzed- and you sued me, the judge should throw the case out.
Because You Chose to not wear a seat belt.

I think the right they need to release us from is the right to medical treatment at any of Society's expense.

I know this isn't as valid in the States where it's no pay - no treatment, but in other countries the medical system is run to benefit the citizens - requiring our taxes go to provide medical aid to those who choose to not avail themselves of basic safety precautions is why seatbelt & helmet laws are a good idea.

Now, maybe we could run the ignition current through the seatbelt buckle? *grins*

No he wasn't wrong about being able to breed a better race. Failing to have a workable definition for 'better' doesn't mean it can't be done.

PLUS, simply breeding out congenital defects would improve the lot of the majority of humanity.

And I'm pretty sure there are a number of Govts around who would happily breed for a 'better ciitizen' if they could work out how to make us more docile. The same bunch (Nazis) used Sodium Fluoride in the Concentration Camp water supplies to do that job.
from http://www.informationliberation.com/?id=14949

I think to avoid contaminating this thread further I should leave it to readers to do their own investigation into why it is being added to water supplies in the current times.

Breeding out defects is, I will agree, fraught with danger until we know how it all works, (think Malaria & Sickle Cell anaemia) but once we have it to a decent level of understanding there should be no reason why we can't start removing illness & degenerate disease from the population - apart from the pharmaceuticals of course.

So it is quite possible to breed a better race just by breeding out the defects
Can't say I disagree with this... Particularly on the part of any Govt - they are the least likely to have any concept of a moral imperative although I think most of them have amoral imperatives. *grins*

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Uh oh...

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Oh, Boy...

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I have here an abstract from a 1999 article in Science Direct looking at the IQ/noggin relationship.


I liked the part near the end:

"Additional analyses suggested that these results may need qualification. In men, only anterior cerebral area correlated with IQ. In women, total and posterior cerebral areas were correlated with IQ. Other results varied by handedness."

So it turns out that to get the correlation different parts of male and female brains must be measured. But not the whole brain in either case. And IQ varied with handedness?

I'm assuming a typo and that the correlation was really 0.40. And I should note this appears to be a correlation of brain cross-sectional area, not volume.

I'll keep looking for other stuff.

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Well, I'd say I was just messing with your heads, but I can't find my fluoride...

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Where's ZaphodBeeblebrox when he needs to respond to a post?

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Last seen trying to brush both sets of teeth with a toothbrush 3 foot wide - the fluoride froth spread & frothed & imploded into his own quantum-frothy universe, effectively removing any possibility of further entanglement.

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eighty six threads. march 24. that's approx. fifty days. a BAUT record?

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I am not sure that is the case. I bet there would be a settlement of some sort.

Awesome!!!

When I wrote the above in post #8 of this thread, I was also hoping that this thread would die a timely and well-deserved death shortly thereafter. It almost worked, too: nobody posted to this thread for nine hours after that post.

Given the contentious direction(s) that this thread has taken, it is still my wish that this thread die. All it takes is for the "smart people" to stop posting to this thread. I will stop with this post; won't you help me? Please?

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No ... all smart people please post! Dumb ones stop!

Ok, I'll stop....

Do I understand you right? I am required to wear a seatbelt in order to prevent you from being too overly inconvenienced by an accident you caused? How about you just don't cause the accident in the first place?

I can't speak for other states, but...

South Dakota has a mandatory seat-belt law. However:

If you cause an accident that injures me, you're responsible for those injuries even if they were exacerbated by my failure to wear a seatbelt. Which, IMHO, is as it should be.

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I disagree.

I mean south Dakota is out in the booneys so not too many people own cars out there ... but in NJ / NY the roads are filled not only with drivers but with aggressive drivers. Accidents are common place.

Cars have certain safety standards seatbelts are part of those standards. Here in NJ it is a law that everyone needs to wear their seatbelt. If I crash into you ... I am responsible for damages but if you have ignored the safety features of your car then you are partially negligent. I agree with this and although I sometimes dont like wearing my seat belt I do like the law.

South Dakota is NOT in the boonies. It's just coastally challenged.

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