OK as an american can someone from somewhere else explain to me why these soccer players ( football ) fall down and cry so much.

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It gets them penalties. Italy beat Australia in the last World Cup because of wimps. It works so they use it.

I recommend before the next World Cup we send the Aussie team to NIDA for a course.
(NIDA - National Institute for Dramatic Arts)

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But at least they are good at skiing and bobsled.

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It's a non contact sport, if you deliberatrely make contact with the player rather than the ball the other team gets a free kick or if it's in the penalty area near the goal then it's a penalty kick. If you fall down ad roll around and scream etc then it looks more dramatic. Also if you do get a bad leg injury then it's the end of your livelyhood.

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In real footy (aussie rules) or rugby (either code) players carry on after serious bumps (real ones) & have played the rest of a game with broken wrists & ribs. Any player using acting to try to get a free would find a sudden drop in popularity, & to be honest, probably become the target for a more concentrated attention in later games. When they go down holding parts, it's because there is serious injury.

On national TV we saw Rinaldo go down holding his face when a replay clearly showed the ball hit him in the hip.
The penalty that cost Australia its World Cup chance showed literally no contact on the replay & even the announcer thought it was no foul - the acting got them a score. Italy went on to win the Cup.

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But everybody KNOWS they'refaking, so who are they really going to fool?

Hopefully the refs.

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Well, that´s part of the show. But sometimes a violent contact can really hurt, like a kick on somebody´s leg. I wouldn´t say they "cry". It´s only a facial espression of pain. Remember that soccer players don´t use protection, like American Football players. My fellow countryman Ronaldo once had his leg broken on a tackle. Now, that hurts [and he really cried].

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Soccer is most certainly a contact sport; every part of your body bangs against and tangles with others'. I had the displeasure twice in my day to be involved in breaks from such collisions: once was stepping on a keepers hand going for a ball; the other was passing an errant ball which created a 50-50 situation. My teammate's lower leg was snapped, both bones, in the ensuing collision.

It can really hurt; I'm sure those guys were.


"Taking a dive" can be tactical, drawing a penalty kick (which mostly equates to a free goal) or a card for the offending player. Sometimes too, the diver is carded for attempting such things.
IMO, there is way too much of this in the game these days, tactical or no.

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Soccer can be pretty violent. Not long ago a player died down here as result of a head banging. I´ve heard that Americans find it a sport of sissies, but when´s the last time you heard of somebody dying on some American Football match [heart attacks don't count]?

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Soccer is indeed a contact sport. A lot of the time the player genuinely has been hit, then they exaggerate the fall to draw the referees attention to it.

The increase in 'simulation' as it is called, is simply because a lot of the time it works. But players do get booked for simulation.

I don't like that its part of the game. You can feel cheated when the opposing team wins because of it. But on the other hand i'm more forgiving of my own team.

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Somehow I don't see fatality lists as essential to sports. I mean, we lose more athletes than you do is a point of comparison or pride? How odd.

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Wasn't there a Columbian player shot because the National team lost?

Also soccer is renowned for violence among the spectators - gangs going to the game to indulge in war, burning down stadiums, riots in the streets...

Seems a bit obvious there's a lacking in education among soccer fans (like defining the word 'game') & so it's only to be expected they don't see the differences between an injured player & a pretender.

*grins* Nancy boys... real footy players are there to play footy, not try out for an Oscar.

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Because unlike baseball, crying is allowed in soccer.

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Well, if you had to run around in short pants and couldn't use your hands, wouldn't you cry too?

Especially when, after doing all that, you wind up with a "kissing your sister" final score?




Meanwhile the plethora of tommac threads continues.

I'm looking forward to the "Why is there air?" tommac thread so I can quote Bill Cosby

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IIRC, after the Cup in the US, '94.

No doubt hooliganism has given the sport a black eye. Too much pride can be a dangerous thing, but I don't think there's necessarily a correlation with education.

And yet it is called the "thinking man's game"...

I have found more often than not people familiar with the game recognize the "simulation" when it happens.
Certainly, some are missed resulting in a bad call but that's with any sport, no?

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Right, Americans seem to need more instant gratification and bigger results.

I've been in and watched many games with nil-nil or 1-nil results which were most exciting.

I guess Americans have difficulty getting it.

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