Despite the fact that the stream is less than 1/10th my bandwidth, I get about about 2 secs of video followed by between 5 and 10 secs of PAUSE.

That's not acceptable.

I've complained repeatedly on their site, but I've yet to get a single response. So I'm expanding my complaint circle and will CONTININUE to do so until either:

1. I've driven their entire subscribership AND their advertising revenue to their competitors...

or

2. They FIX their bandwidth problem. That they have such a problem is NOT in dispute, as they most certainly DO have such a problem. Nor is it in dispute that they're ignoring their problem, as they most certainly are, as is the fact that they're refusing to acknowledge their problem, as they're doing that, too!

Thus, I've begun my TubeYou campain, and this is perhaps the 45th post across many sites.

My goal?

YouTube is a great site!

However, they are TUBING themselves by going cheap on the bandwidth.

They're cutting their own throats, empowering their competition, and generally undermining the countless efforts which their subscribers have taken to better the YouTube environment.

Hey. If they're that stupid and want to hang themselves that badly, get on with it, and let them finish themselves off that much sooner.

I won't slow the process. In fact, I'm hoping my posts will hasten it.

But I'm also hoping my posts will help the myopic heads at YouTube pull their proverbial heads from... and FIX their problems (and they DO have many, most of which will KILL them in less than a year if they don't take heed).

UGH!

How is if that people come out with so many great online ideas then put a gun to their heads without even realizing what they're doing?

UGH!

Yes, with a 1/4 download capability, it suffices to say that YouTube's managers are idiots, particuarly given their potential and their vast competition. Their bandwidth should be their FIRST concern. Unfortunately, the idiots managing that site appear to consider it their LAST concern.

Fine.

I'll go elsewhere. Thankfully, there are many other places to go!

Bye-bye, YouTube. Great idea, but you really stank on the follow-through...

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But I only rarely have a problem viewing a video without interruption or buffering.

dunnoMe too. Well, not very often.

You DO realize it could be your own ISP throttling down YOUR connection???

Comcast and others have been caught doing just that....

('Ya gotta be careful before yelling at a website, it's not always THEIR fault when 'ya find out how the Internet works.)

RCN's been traffic shaping for a while now. I got a megamodem "Mach 10" and have never once gotten NEAR much less over a meg per second download. Ten meg connection my arse.

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Does anybody subscribe to their premium service, WTube?

There has been talk in the past of ISP's selling preferential bandwidth to businesses but I have not heard anything about it recently.

Clearly, having a 10 or 100 mega-baud connection does not mean such speed is achievable. There is a protocol which carries some overhead and speeds are ultimately limited by the server's or client's bandwidth which can be affected by slow things such as disk access time.

I haven't had a problem with YouTube since I was finally able to get DSL.

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I can watch any youtube video, including the "high quality" ones, with absolutely no hesitation or buffering. I would question whether it is them or you.

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Keep in mind, the maximum theoretical bandwidth of a ten megabit connection is actually 1.25 megabytes per second (so you're probably a lot closer than you think).

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Give us a specfic link to one so we can test it, too---or is it happening with EVERY one you've tried?

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I occasionally get slow links, but usually, I can have three or four pages open, downloading the video, while watching the first, and having a couple of downloads happening through firefox. And my ISP's marketers seem to think I should be lusting after a faster connection.

Mugs, as others have pointed out, there are three components to your real bandwidth. The destination server, your ISP, and every router in between. On top of that, real bandwidth and advertised bandwidth are two very separate things. That's the bandwidth you're supposed to get as far as your ISP's front door and not a step further. From there, you're at the mercy of the rest of the net, just like the rest of us. Have you tried running a traceroute between your computer and one of Youtube's?

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I've had this problem too.

On top of that, I even had my ISP out several times, only to learn in the end that something was wrong on my own PC that caused the problem. To this day I have not Clue One what it was! I found no virus, no infections, all security settings seemed fine... Yet I was dropping packets like crazy.
Wiped and reloaded and the problem vanished. Was back at normal speeds.

Out of curiosity, mugaliens, what is your actual bandwidth?

(measured by someplace like www.speedtest.net or similar, not claimed).

For comparison, mine (which I've had no problems with Youtube on) is about 7000-12000 Mbps, depending on the time.

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Well, that's what I have. I think part of it is that I'm in Germany. I never seem to have a problem at my folks' place back in the states. They have cable, but with about half my bandwidth.

But they're in the states.

I think YouTube is just stiffing other overseas folks.

Anyone agree?

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According to speedtest, it's 2946 kbps download, 377 kbps upload.

But when I selected from the US, instead of locally, it's about half that in download, and about 2/3 that in upload - still quite a bit greater than what I'm measuring with YouTube.

Yes, I do believe they're still their overseas customers to save money.

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Whoever says "perception is reality" is daft. It's merely an abstraction, and often not a very good one.

Keep in mind that's in kilo *bits* per second. You'll want to divide that by 8 to get the actual number.

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no problem here.

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The cross-Atlantic link will get you anytime.

As YouTube is serving in the US, bandwidth to them will be slow in Europe.
It's not YouTube who don't want to pay for bandwidth, it's the backbone providers who hasn't dug a thick enough tube under the ocean yet.

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Trying to make sense of computers, The Error Log.

Network throughout isn't measured in bytes per second, as bytes (word length) varies. In the original ANSI standard, a byte was eight bits with one stop bit. In later standards, even with 300 baud modems, they varied quite a bit depending upon what OS is used. To complicate matters further, various file transfer protocols use different packet lengths, measured in bytes. For example, Super Kermit's data packet is 96 bytes long. Typically, an error-detection or error-correction CRC (or other type) would be sent at the end of the data packet, with an ACK response indicating "everything checks, send some more." A few protocols were even self-optimizing to account for various types of data drop-out errors and line conditions.

Network throughput is measured in effective bits per second. Thus, if you're at 1,024 bits per second, but your overhead (the CRCs, ACK, and other communication overhead) is 20%, your effective throughput is 800 bits per second, or bps.

But good catch on my errant use of the nomenclature.

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