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Old 18-June-2008, 10:52 PM
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Hi ya!

I plugged "Uri Geller,SRI" at Youtube and I saw some interesting videos with experiments with Uri Geller at SRI,interesting stuff!! as far as I am concerned the man is GENUINE!!

I have had my own experiences with ESP and they were successful.

I read a book many years ago called Superself:The Hidden Powers Within Us.
Written by Ian Wilson.

He is correct the KEY that unlocks latent abilities is "without conscious effort". I think ESP/anomalous cognition comes to people in different ways:visual,intuitive hunches,dreams,"small inner voice"...

I am interested in experiments done with the Chinese and Russians

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Old 18-June-2008, 11:09 PM
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I plugged "Uri Geller,SRI" at Youtube and I saw some interesting videos with experiments with Uri Geller at SRI,interesting stuff!! as far as I am concerned the man is GENUINE!!
Funny thing: I used to take ESP claims fairly seriously back in my teenage days. The trickster Geller, and Puthoff and Targ (so-called SRI researchers) were some of the key reasons I became an ESP skeptic. I remember reading exchanges between Martin Gardner and P&T, and was shocked at the willful lack of rigor in their research.
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Old 18-June-2008, 11:14 PM
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Is that before or after the key is bent?
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Old 18-June-2008, 11:18 PM
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I'd have to practice at this point (it's been quite a while), but at one time I could break a key in half while another person was holding both ends.
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Old 18-June-2008, 11:43 PM
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no the KEY is not physical..the key is WISDOM and an OPEN MIND

I have had 3 pairs of dice correct in a row!, horses( trifecta, quinella on 2 diiferent races before the race began,..and they were correct!!,cards shuffled it then face down, I relaxed and it came to my mind " 7 Diamonds" I ignored it and it came to me again..and was 7 Diamonds.!!

the key for me is WITHOUT CONSCIOUS EFFORT...and it comes as a "small inner voice". It's a bit like trying to remember a phone number or the name of someone from say 10 years ago..is it a "word" it comes you when NOT THINKING ABOUT IT!

I think with ESP(Anomalous Cognition) there is more to it than the subconscious..it's a spiritual thing.

I have not had these experiences for such along time but I am being honest, if you don't believe me that's not my problem..

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Old 18-June-2008, 11:59 PM
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I have not had these experiences for such along time but I am being honest, if you don't believe me that's not my problem..
So you can't reproduce it, currently? You can't provide the evidence for your own claim? Then it is your problem that we don't believe you.

Most of us think that Uri Gellar is genuine, too. A genuine what is something we can't say on the board.
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no the KEY is not physical..the key is WISDOM and an OPEN MIND...
As the saying goes, an open mind needs a good screen, otherwise the brain will fall out.


Meanwhile, here we go again.
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As the saying goes, an open mind needs a good screen...
Ooh---priors!
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...2 the sceptics I say if I didn't have an open mind I wouldn't know anything...

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Aww, shucks.
Despite his bad spelling, grammar and lack of discipline he does have a positive attitude doesn't he?
altair4, if you come back just put all your threads in the Beyond Belief section, and reply to the responses we give. You'll be safe there...
Another suggestion: instead of starting new threads all the time, just put most of your posts in the same thread since they are so similiar to each other.
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Old 19-June-2008, 02:28 AM
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I've earned more than my fair share of beers in pubs from being able to "bend spoons' a la Geller.

It's a cheap trick, although it looks awesome to someone with 4-5 beers in their belly. From that aspect, it shares much with the rest of Geller's output.
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Old 19-June-2008, 04:18 AM
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and you know something I wouldn't change anything Apollo hoax proboards was a challenge for me and I don't regret anything,so I will continue BEING MYSELF AND WHAT EXPERIENCE HAS TAUGHT ME!

And Ginnie is alright,so is JayUtah,most of them are...except I have an issue with.1 or 2 people...Like I say I JUDGE PEOPLE BY THEIR ATTITUDE AND NEGATIVE THINKING NEVER GOT ANYONE ANYWHERE!!

I AM NOT A SCEPTIC OR A DEBUNKER

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Old 19-June-2008, 04:39 AM
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[Snip!] Most of us think that Uri Gellar is genuine, too. A genuine what is something we can't say on the board.
I think the word "fraud" is close enough and mild enough for this board.
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[edit]I AM NOT A SCEPTIC OR A DEBUNKER...
You really ought to try being one. Cleans the trash out of the attic and gives one a new perspective on life. Plus it acquaints one with something called reality.

Debunkers and sceptics do a great service in promoting the kind of activity Mark Twain described thusly:
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Old 19-June-2008, 04:55 AM
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Hey Sarongsong!!

I see you exposed my threads at Apollo hoax proboards...and I am glad YOU DID!!!

BECAUSE WHAT I SAID IS TRUE!!!!

Paul Leeks,Wellington,New Zealand

OBTW at least I can identify myself what about you, the reason I gave my name is because I AM A REAL PERSON!!!

HA!HA!HA!

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Old 19-June-2008, 04:55 AM
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Paul, I'll be Good Cop for a minute. People like Uri have learned one trick and perform it over and over: making the money in your wallet disappear.

If you want to find a real psychic, get one who will demonstrate his abilities in front of a good magician, preferably one specializing in close-up magic.

There's nothing unfair about this. If a guy claims to have a 200MPG carburetor for cars, you have him demonstrate it in front of a good engineer, to minimize the possibility of fraud.
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Old 19-June-2008, 05:01 AM
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reality is WHAT REALLY HAPPENS IN LIFE!

& that reminds I stuidied psychology(at Uni) and thats not reality..it's black and white generalisation,some people KNOW what they are talking about it comes from experience which you don't HAVE...and that is REALITY!

YES IT WISER TO FIND OUT THAN TO SUPPOSE(TWAIN)...and when you finf out ot comes with EXPERIENCE!

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Will the witnesses acknowledge that I at least tried?
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Will the witnesses acknowledge that I at least tried?
So acknowledged.

I might get to sleep easily enough tonight, since I'm either about to go bang my head on the wall or cry. Not sure which yet.
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YES IT WISER TO FIND OUT THAN TO SUPPOSE(TWAIN)...and when you finf out ot comes with EXPERIENCE!
Yes, we know. The arguments you're hearing are based on experience. That's the point.
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Old 19-June-2008, 05:24 AM
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Will the witnesses acknowledge that I at least tried?
Yes, but he clearly isn't interested in your experience.
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. . . as far as I am concerned the man is GENUINE!!
This does not surprise me.

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