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Old 09-August-2008, 08:31 PM
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Thumbs down From Jethro Bodine University comes this brilliant suggestion!

http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20080807/od_nm/...UYYG1P.TevtiBIF

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LONDON (Reuters) - Embaressed by yor spelling? Never you mind.

Fed up with his students' complete inability to spell common English correctly, a British academic has suggested it may be time to accept "variant spellings" as legitimate.
Terrific idea. <_< And how many "variants" are allowed for each word?

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Rather than grammarians getting in a huff about "argument" being spelled "arguement" or "opportunity" as "opertunity," why not accept anything that's phonetically (fonetickly anyone?) correct as long as it can be understood?
Can you understand this: "...had a strok and got parzel on the left sid." Or this: I have cat-cats.

Interpretation: "...had a stroke and got paralyzed on the left side" ... "I have cataracts."

The above was my grandmother's spelling. Is that okay?? Reading her letters was a nightmare, but she did well enough for a 3rd-grade education I suppose.

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"University teachers should simply accept as variant spelling those words our students most commonly misspell."

To kickstart his proposal, Smith suggested 10 common misspellings that should immediately be accepted into the pantheon of variants, including "ignor," "occured," "thier," "truely," "speach" and "twelth" (it should be "twelfth").
No way. This is promoting sheer chaos. We must have some level of uniformity.

And that's coming from a person who gets sick and tired of e-mails from the bosses regarding correct use of "affect" and "effect". I'd like to trash both of those stupid words, but try my best to use them correctly.

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Yet even some of Britain's greatest wordsmiths have acknowledged it's a language with irritating quirkiness.
Sure is. I don't pronounce "knife" as "kuh-ny-fee."

But why should we all look like a bunch of idiots? This is as bad as "okaying" eubonics. And what a nightmare learning English would become for non-native speakers!
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Old 09-August-2008, 08:49 PM
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I don't know... Perhaps Mr. Smith was being sarcastic.

I can certainly understand his frustration with having to wade through poor spelling. And if PhD. theses were published as they are sometimes originally written, maybe our political classes would be shamed into to stop messing with education.
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Old 09-August-2008, 08:57 PM
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Nadme, small trivia.

In that the impliment in the 1100's WAS pronounced "k-nif'. And in a weird reversal of the normal, english influinced the pronunciation of a french word and they made the k silent by the 1300'. According to the authors of "100 Lengendary Knives")
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Low standards and low expectations will only net you low quality and low performance. Linguistic changes occur naturally enough without hurrying them along with such nonsense.
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Old 09-August-2008, 10:24 PM
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Read a story in the New York Times today that referred to the republic of Gerogia as a 'polygot' country. Polygot what? A cracker?

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Old 10-August-2008, 05:38 PM
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The purists can say what they want, but in the end, language is dynamic. For a while it was not as dynamic as it used to be, but lately with text messaging, many words now have two or more spellings. I suspect that some of these alternative spellings and arconyms will become part of the core language at some point. I agree that things will be a mess if every spelling is considered acceptable, because then it would be hard to tell which word is the intended word, but the language will change despite the best efforts of the purists.
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Old 11-August-2008, 06:54 AM
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As much as I hate to say it jfurbrgr might be right. Permission to go down kicking and screaming, Sir?
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as long as little Timmy feels good about it, it's ok with me.
in the end- that's all that matters, right- how the kid feels at the end of the school day. we can't be bringing little Timmy's self esteem down by telling him that he doesn't need to put an apostrophe in the word every time it ends with the letter "S"..
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Old 11-August-2008, 07:33 AM
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Low standards and low expectations will only net you low quality and low performance.[/b] ...snip
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Old 11-August-2008, 01:21 PM
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Nadme, small trivia.

In that the impliment in the 1100's WAS pronounced "k-nif'. And in a weird reversal of the normal, english influinced the pronunciation of a french word and they made the k silent by the 1300'. According to the authors of "100 Lengendary Knives")
Did they also pronounce Knight "Ka-niggit" :P
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As much as I hate to say it jfurbrgr might be right. Permission to go down kicking and screaming, Sir?
Permission granted. BYW, BegDone, your position on proper spelling would perhaps be a bit stronger if you hadn't mangled my screen name so badly. I admit that my screen name has never been in the dictionary (unlike toSeek's brief presence in Wilipedia), so maybe correct spelling only applies to items recognized by a spell checker.
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Did they also pronounce Knight "Ka-niggit" :P
"Kneecht", with the "ch" pronounced as in the traditional pronunciation of the word "loch". No schwas between the "k" and the "n" or between the "ch" and the "t".
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Old 11-August-2008, 03:21 PM
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Permission granted. BYW, BegDone, your position on proper spelling would perhaps be a bit stronger if you hadn't mangled my screen name so badly. I admit that my screen name has never been in the dictionary (unlike toSeek's brief presence in Wilipedia), so maybe correct spelling only applies to items recognized by a spell checker.
Not to be crude but...

Your screen name came premangled when you typed it into your BAUT registration.

I think BigDon may have been trying to help. Kinda.
His version reminded me of food...


hmm...


food...
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His version reminded me of food...
Food?

After a fashion, I suppose...


As for the OP, new spellings can eventually become a correct spelling once they come into general usage. But I think they should not be accepted as correct before then.
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Food?

After a fashion, I suppose...
A fashionable burger?
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A fashionable burger?
It's....okay, I'm thinking PM for this one. Check your inbox.
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Okay, I was having j on a bit with a pseudofalse spelling of his screen name.

Sorry I made him mad.
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Did they also pronounce Knight "Ka-niggit" :P
i can just see two knights passing in the woods, and one saying to the other- "yo, what is up, my kaniggit" as a form of slang that it's only cool for other knights to say..
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Old 11-August-2008, 07:20 PM
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In the First FolioShakespear used several spellings for the same word in the same acts of the same play. He varied the spelling for effect in a passage.

It was the Victorians that pinned language down in a book and killed it. Dr Johnson started it with his Dictionary.

Pity he left out Sausage. lol
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