Well, duh. Why else would I have brought it up and lampooned it?

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Science is like sex. Sometimes something useful comes out, but that is not the reason we are doing it.
-- Richard Feynman

Yup, while the "natural" one bypasses the refining and control processes, and most of the safety ones as well.

Steve Novella of SGU pointed out a while back that the dosage in herbals could vary by as much as 17x. He's called them "dirty drugs" many times.

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In Fallout 3, 'happiness' is a warm junkyard dog and a loaded gun. It's mostly the loaded gun.
- Moose's one-line review.

"your going to regret that one. You are now a colonoscope...
- Chrissy, corrupting PraedSt's wish.

Pretty much what wikipedia said when they removed it, I'm told.

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In Fallout 3, 'happiness' is a warm junkyard dog and a loaded gun. It's mostly the loaded gun.
- Moose's one-line review.

"your going to regret that one. You are now a colonoscope...
- Chrissy, corrupting PraedSt's wish.

That's not just a cliche, it's bad logic. Why would you want kids to wait in the dark?

Just kidding - I know you meant "...would not have to wait..." But it's still bad logic, because DST makes it darker in the morning, not lighter. Keeping the schoolkids from waiting in the dark is why we don't do DST in the winter.

How about "giving 110%"? That one really bugged my father.

And, somewhat related, before our final softball game of the season last night, one of the players said that this season was a "360-degree turnaround from last year."

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I don't think a 360-degree trunaround is a cliche. I think it's just a mistaken attempt at saying it's a 180-degree turn. Kind of like Yogi Berra's, "Baseball is 90% mental, the other half is physical."

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Spock Jenkins of the Vulcan Jenkins'.

I did say it was somewhat related.

And it probably happens almost often enough to be a cliche, anyway.

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Royal Canadian Air Farce used to get their giggles pointing out how often politicians use the "turned the corner on" cliché by having their caricatures "turn the corner" four times.

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In Fallout 3, 'happiness' is a warm junkyard dog and a loaded gun. It's mostly the loaded gun.
- Moose's one-line review.

"your going to regret that one. You are now a colonoscope...
- Chrissy, corrupting PraedSt's wish.

(Matherly sticks his tounge out at Delvo)

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Offical Battlestar Galactica Apologist

Named Time Magazine's 2006 "Person of the Year"

How about the one that all women are obsessed with shopping, particularly for shoes?

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"Now everyone was giving her that kind of look UFOlogists get when they suddenly say, 'Hey, if you shade your eyes you can see it is just a flock of geese after all.'"

"You can't erase icing."

"I can't believe it doesn't work! I found it on the internet, man!"

While I agree that it's a badly overused cliche, it's not entirely illogical. You can make the argument that "giving 100%" refers to a normal full-out effort, but not really the very most that one could do.

Consider the fact that special circumstances (such as a burst of adrenaline) can alter our physical capabilities. I might "give 100%" and not be able to lift a car off the ground, but when it's on fire and my loved one is trapped under it I might be able to "give 110%" and do so.

So the phrase might bother me due to its overuse, but not so much because it's illogical -- in the above sense, it really is possible to give more than the most you can give.

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"It is quite clear that Occam's razor does not sharpen in your pyramid." (Nicolas)

"Still, a man hears what he wants to hear and disregards the rest." (Paul Simon)

Neverfly brought it up in another thread:

Open / Closed minded

Not sure if they qualify as cliche's, perhaps in some context - but they certainly are over-used.

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Oh, that brings up another of my "favorties": "You laugh at me, but they laughed at Galileo too!" Um, yes and as Carl Sagan pointed out they also laughed at Bozo. What does that have to do with what you are saying?

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Offical Battlestar Galactica Apologist

Named Time Magazine's 2006 "Person of the Year"

Kind of goes back to the "X people can't be wrong!" cliche.

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That one's rediculous! Just as many women prefer shopping for purses! Duh!!


*runs and hides*

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I'm like one of those idiot savants...well, except for the savant part.

I don't allow cliches - Not on my watch.

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I am Mugs, of the Alien clan of Usa, Nordamerica, a Terran, of Sol. Human.

Whoever says "perception is reality" is daft. It's merely an abstraction, and often not a very good one.

My brother and I met Yogi Berra when I was a kid, playing little league. My brother played all-stars for a few years, and when he got a dog a few years back, he named it Yogi.

And yes, that dog is 90% mental, and the other half is physical.

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I am Mugs, of the Alien clan of Usa, Nordamerica, a Terran, of Sol. Human.

Whoever says "perception is reality" is daft. It's merely an abstraction, and often not a very good one.

If I had £1 for every time I heard somebody use a dumb cliche...

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I know how you feel. Sometimes I think that if I hear just one more cliché, I'm going to lose it.

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If I told you once, I told you a million times: I do not exagerate.

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