I am far as I am concerned what is the THE TRUTH..no one knows!!!..and never will!!

truth is on a number of different levels..my thinking is don't settle for less than logic and experience.

positive thinking and experience has taught me everything I need to know...and I am still learning something new each day..!!

'the hallmark of an educated man is that he doesn't know all the answers"-Socrates

do you have a definition of THE TRUTH??...isn't this is what science is looking for??

as far as I am concerned THE TRUTH doesn't exist!! keep searching,keep looking. I have a lot of learning to do just like you.

I 'll just stick to what I know...and keep on going. I am amazed with what I have come to know!!!!awesome!!

AND THERE IS STILL LOTS TO LEARN, HAVE FUN ON YOUR SEARCH FOR WISDOM

OBTW it's nice to be back for the fourth time!!

take care

Paul

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This isn't right. This isn't even wrong. - Wolfgang Pauli

Hi Eta C

Guess what I am 42...serious!

and it's great..Truth!!

there is a deja vu thing here!!

love ya all!

Paul

We shall not cease from exploration
And the end of all our exploring
Will be to arrive where we started
And know the place for the first time.
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What ever the hell the truth is you ain't gonna find it on the internet. Me, August 19, 2008

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What do you get when you multiply six and nine?

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6 times 9=54

so does 9 times 6=54

but how do numbers come into "existance" does anyone know?

I expect H2G2 doesn't sell very well in China, because in Mandarin, "42" sounds like the words "want to die".

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In base 13, it equals 42. By the way, for the fun of it, type (or copy) the following line, exactly, in Google:

the answer to life, the universe, and everything

They're symbols. They don't exist beyond the concepts they represent.

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Reality exists whether you choose to perceive it or not.

what is reality??

to me...reality is a "mirror" of your mind (subjective reality)

so as you think,so you are!!

to me objective realty is the way things REALLY ARE!!...and you wont find it in a laboratory or by critical analysis...because LIFE IS SUBJECTIVE.

Paul

A novel by Terry Pratchett.

Fred

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Van Rijn, Exactly.

Paul Leeks, calm down please.

Can we be sure that it's TRUE that we'll never know THE TRUTH? If we were sure then we'd know the truth about something. If not then we can't be sure that we can't know the truth, so we'd have to admit that it might be possible.

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Numbers resulted from our need to keep track of things. First we used our hand digits to count - thus our base 10 system - then our toes, and when things got more complicated we started to use stones or scratches on rocks or wood. I have a great, wonderful book called "A Universal History of Numbers" . And it's not boring, or repetitive - it has thousands of illustrations and great histories of the number systems from countries across the globe.

http://www.amazon.com/Universal-Hist.../dp/0471375683

It is really a good book, Paul.

From a review:
The title doesn't lie. Mathematician Georges Ifrah's masterpiece, The Universal History of Numbers, is a wonderfully comprehensive overview of numbers and counting spanning all the inhabited continents as far back in time as records will allow us to look. Beyond the ancient Babylonians, Sumerians, and Indians, Ifrah takes us farther south into Africa to examine an early decimal counting system and into ancient Mexico to reconstruct what we can of the Mayan calendar and numerical system. The 27 chapters are chiefly organized by culture, though there are some cross-cultural overviews of topics like letters and numbers.

The author's aim was grand: "to provide in simple and accessible terms the full and complete answer to all and any questions ... about the history of numbers and counting, from prehistory to the age of computers." This led him to wander the world for 10 years, studying and learning; this scholastic pilgrim has returned with amazing stories to tell. Toward the end of the book, Ifrah makes the book truly universal by refuting alien-intervention theories of cultural origins--surely our benefactors would have given us an efficient decimal counting system, zero and all, before helping us build pyramids and such. Such charming ideas, combined with such rigorously researched facts, make The Universal History of Numbers a uniquely important and fascinating volume. --Rob Lightner

If you are interested in numbers at all, this is the book for you.

Everyone has their own LEVEL of understanding..for me no substitute for DIRECT EXPERIENCE

PL

Well, gosh---thanks for clearing that up.

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"My name is truth and I am the most elusive captive in the universe."
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Boy, Google did that a whole lot faster than Deep Thought did.

I suspect they included certain optimizations to their calculation unavailable to the programmers of Deep Thought.

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I don't mean to be rude, but this is the single silliest statement I have read on this board (and I was a contributor to the Moonman threads!)

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When I was running for town council in 2005, a supporter of my opponents came up to my booth at a town street fair and started arguing that I was not telling "the truth" about the administration's redevelopment plan. Right there at the fair, with people standing around the booth, I responded, "what is the truth?"

Luckily, one of our supporters took up the conversation, so I could get on with meeting more people, which this person was obviously trying to prevent. Still, in retrospect it was a humorous campaign experience.

Funnily enough, you don't have direct experience of levitaton, or Bigfoot.

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It does? I'm a native Mandarin speaker, and "42" doesn't sound like any of the ways I know of to say "want to die".

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Yeah, the poster was wrong about that. It's not Mandarin, but Japanese. In Japanese, one way to pronounce 42 is "shi-ni", which sounds like "shi-nin," which means a dead person. In fact, I used to live in an apartment that was 402, and many Japanese people would avoid it for that reason.

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Neat! I didn't know that. Thanks for the info

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Reality is that which doesn't go away when you stop believing in it.

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In the absence of my own direct experience - another individuals direct experience will suffice, provided it supports my own preconceived notions.

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Try these 2 statements in a court of law!

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