There was one news in the day before yesterday's newspaper, That,"there was one photo in which one repairing engineer who was repairing something on one space station, meanwhile his tool box freed from his hand and that is now falling, so where that tool box will take it's final destination ! will it go in sea, or it will fall on the ground, or it will float there forever, or that tool box can be catch again, or a person will go behind that tool box, or that tool box will fall rapidly on the earth later it will take fire and then it will ruin in the air/land/water. Or it will fall on the different planet, or it will go far away as far as 'perigee" from that point.!!
or it will orbit the earth in "geo synchronus orbit". Or that bag I mean that tool box will fall on earth in a straight vertical line from that point, where it's journey was start. ?


I worried about it, anyone here knows the detail !

Please state your guideline now.
yes, I found one link here:

http://www.cnn.com/2008/TECH/space/1...alk/index.html

Oh suntrack....
....go look at nasa tv
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html

there's live press conf happening at the mo. check out the tool bag too.

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If you want to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe. CARL SAGAN

Mak: Pass the pepperoni please.
Fazor: "Hail, Bautainia! We pledge our hearts to thee! Science and woo, some babbling too, and astron-oh-meee!"
slang: And it made ash out of yew and tree.

go to NASA suntrack..., the horse's mouth, not the horse's...you know what i mean? world's media get the information from NASA anyway.

edit: there you go sunny...
http://www.nasa.gov/multimedia/nasatv/index.html

i just hope you are able to 'access' it! enjoy

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If you want to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe. CARL SAGAN

Mak: Pass the pepperoni please.
Fazor: "Hail, Bautainia! We pledge our hearts to thee! Science and woo, some babbling too, and astron-oh-meee!"
slang: And it made ash out of yew and tree.

I opened the above link mahesh, but taking too much time to open, due to the slow speed of the "internet-box".

But next time I will open it and will check the took box, whether all things are well in tight in that tool box. Some students were worried about that tool box bag here, I said nothing will happen bad, that tool box will not fall on your heads, so enjoy fellows.

(if that tool box is having a torch-light, and if that is controlled by a remote controller then we can view that tool box in the space in the night.

Sunil

I think there were only cheese and onion sandwiches in there suntrack....

Oh, Frog march, thanks for the cool reply. It means that tool box will fall on the head with a soft touch, just like when teacher appreaciate his student by touching his head softly.

But I think due to air pressure and heat that sandwiches will be baked too much and hence it will not be in the condition "cracked by the jaws", then one has to "refer to the dentist". And the onion will go out in the space just like a "golf ball" or one can say tennis ball, so where that ball will fall in which court !!

Sunil

...and a bit of oleaginous, you know , grease
like for that man from calcutta...

sunny, seriously, do the 'net cafés / or libraries, in you neighbourhood, have faster provisions? may be use on of them...

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If you want to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe. CARL SAGAN

Mak: Pass the pepperoni please.
Fazor: "Hail, Bautainia! We pledge our hearts to thee! Science and woo, some babbling too, and astron-oh-meee!"
slang: And it made ash out of yew and tree.

The orbit will slowly decay and the box will burn up in a few years.
That way our tax money is wasted.
A simple line worth pennies could have prevented that.

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And there was a tether for the tool-box, but somehow, what with a grease gun exploding during their spacewalk preperations, and the challenges of, you know, floating around as your own spacecraft, checking oxygen, CO2, temperature, tools, tethers, timelines, not grabbing anything sharp, checking gloves, visor down, lights off, and a suit so hard to move around in you end up straining your fingers to the point of exteme pain....

somehow, they just managed to have one tether work itself loose and a bag of tools got away.

Are you perfect? Have you never, ever, made a mistake in any high stress situation in your life?

Didn't think so.

I don't wanna mention how many tools I have lost over the years...

At least none were lost in orbit. I lost a screwdriver once, while working on my car. The guy who bought it from me send it to me in the mail about a year after he bought it, as he found it while pulling the engine to replace the clutch.

I've been watching NASA TV for the last hour (live EVA coverage), and was startled to hear the commentator announce some football scores.

Day job?

"That's one small step for man, and one giant leap over the right tackle, landing on his feet, cuts left through the slot, he's going, going, he's GONE! Ladies and Gentleman, that's about the slickest bit of dodging defensive backs I've seen yet this year! Back to you, Kurt."

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If I set the budget, we'd have Ares and more. Unfortunately, I don't set the budget, and Ares is just too expensive and too far out for us to accomplish our goals within the budget we were given.

If we halt the ISS, all versions of Ares, and transport Orion and Altair aboard DIRECTv3's Jupiter family of Shuttle-Derived Launch Vehicles, we just might make it back to the Moon by 2020.

Just checked under the cushion of my sofa.

Found 3 tools.

No tool box.

And 26 cents and a peanut. Yum.

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The astronaut was a she- Ms Stefanyshyn-Piper. You'll find more info on 01101001's shuttle mission thread here onwards.

The tool bag is in roughly the same orbit as the ISS. As long as it avoids everything else that's up there, it will stay in orbit for some time, before burning up in our atmosphere.

You bring up an interesting point, PraedSt - are there differences between the genders with respect to one's ability to maintain control over one's toolbag during spacewalks? I'm sure there's an Earthside equivalent with a significantly larger sample size from which to draw a more accurate conclusion...

Guys are at their best when they adhere to the Rule of Three: their bow, their arrow, and their hunting knife.

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If I set the budget, we'd have Ares and more. Unfortunately, I don't set the budget, and Ares is just too expensive and too far out for us to accomplish our goals within the budget we were given.

If we halt the ISS, all versions of Ares, and transport Orion and Altair aboard DIRECTv3's Jupiter family of Shuttle-Derived Launch Vehicles, we just might make it back to the Moon by 2020.

Huh?
I doubt that gender played any role whatsoever.

Male astronauts have fouled up on spacewalks too.

I thought they only needed duct tape up there anyway....

Hehe. Not really. Guys screw up just as much. I was just nit-picking the OP's liberal use of 'he' and 'his'.

Frankly, given:

1. Their lower mass
2. Their better 3D spatial awareness (I read this somewhere)
3. Their superior multi-tasking abilities,

perhaps all astronauts should be female?

There are already Google searches that hit on the search term: "Woman loses purse in space".

I thought that was for males, not for females. If there is any gender-based difference, that is.

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To the regular visitor of internet bulletin boards it is clear that it's an excellent idea your parents get to choose your real name.

I not only hear you, but I'm with you. The thought that brought my comments to the page was remembering something I read somewhere about guys being twice as likely to misplace their keys than women.

"Honey! Have you seen my keys? I"m late for work again..."

"Try your pants pocket, dear."

"Oh, yeah. There they are..."

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If I set the budget, we'd have Ares and more. Unfortunately, I don't set the budget, and Ares is just too expensive and too far out for us to accomplish our goals within the budget we were given.

If we halt the ISS, all versions of Ares, and transport Orion and Altair aboard DIRECTv3's Jupiter family of Shuttle-Derived Launch Vehicles, we just might make it back to the Moon by 2020.

Yeah, it was a while ago- I may have it wrong. If I remember, it was talking about awareness of location, rather than say coordination. You know, where you left the car keys, what's in the third kitchen cupboard on the right, where her child is at all times...



EDIT: see Mug's example!

My housemate's always losing her keys, wallet, credit card, work badge...

Such stereotypes are based on perceptions not reality.

I hereby claim ownership of those tools.

I will be placing them on Ebay tomorrow and will stipulate that the item must be picked up personally at a yet undetermined location . Bid now!

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Ach, mein Sinn, wo willst du endlich hin, wo soll ich mich erquicken? Bleib' ich hier, oder wünsch' ich mir Berg und Hügel auf den Rücken?
Bei der Welt ist gar kein Rat, und im Herzen steh'n die Schmerzen meiner Missetat, weil der Knecht den Herrn verleugnet hat.

where's this Neanderthal-esque rule from mugs? pardon my ignorance

mugs / Praed... this here for you guys...talking about wimmin again...

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Originally Posted by ericvaxxine Lost Drifting only fatigue must be to blame .... female multi-tasking abilities..etc..etc

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Originally Posted by mahesh splash explode that's what it was, vaxxine...the grease gun 'exploded' think Heidemarie is pretty adept at handling such stuff, but Murphy's Law overrules a lot of human endeavours. as some one pointed out, famous words now, (after Mr Armstrong's, circa July 1969)...."Oh great!" Heidemarie Stefanyshyn-Piper...

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which suddenly mugs you find interesting...
my rant looping into it above

i detect a certain detestable negative tone, when addressing / referring to 'females' and such issues, here.

it's not fun. certainly not funny. not jovial in any sense, except delinquent.

edit: still ranting...
and what's this about co-ordination, Praed...?oh watch out Trixie, The ToolBag! ...i know exactly where you are honey! but mummy can't get co-ordinimagated right now to pull you away from under the tumbling tool...oh noooo.
oh it's a greasy sponge...phew!..

so away with the undermining stuff already....

sorry sunny suntrack...didn't mean to hi-jack your thread

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If you want to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe. CARL SAGAN

Mak: Pass the pepperoni please.
Fazor: "Hail, Bautainia! We pledge our hearts to thee! Science and woo, some babbling too, and astron-oh-meee!"
slang: And it made ash out of yew and tree.

Enlightenment.

I sent you a PM in response to your comments.

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If I set the budget, we'd have Ares and more. Unfortunately, I don't set the budget, and Ares is just too expensive and too far out for us to accomplish our goals within the budget we were given.

If we halt the ISS, all versions of Ares, and transport Orion and Altair aboard DIRECTv3's Jupiter family of Shuttle-Derived Launch Vehicles, we just might make it back to the Moon by 2020.

How is it that you cherry pick my words, place them in a 'bad' context, and completely ignore the rest of what I said?

Please read post Number 17 Mahesh.

Praed i like your reason for your edit...'civilised this post'...ha!
mugs / Praed, my apologies...to you two specifically. and other bautzens, i may have offended.
thanks for your link and pm, mugs.

i am sensitive to criticism, where females / women / feminine gender is concerned.
i re-read (yet again) your post, incl mugs quote, at #17, Praed. i should go away for a while, it still doesn't make sense.

and while we are at it, why just wish all astronauts to be female...how about them running the whole show at NASA. and then, and then..ooh, there are so many things they can do better...

(and sunny suntrack2..may vouch for this, they can make a better curry (and faster too) than you or i or sunny could, Praed)

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If you want to make an apple pie from scratch, you must first create the universe. CARL SAGAN

Mak: Pass the pepperoni please.
Fazor: "Hail, Bautainia! We pledge our hearts to thee! Science and woo, some babbling too, and astron-oh-meee!"
slang: And it made ash out of yew and tree.

I hope she didn't leave the keys to the shuttle in the bag.

comparatively there is one observation that most of the man like me also forgets shaving box, leaving a blade in to the shaving razor, forgets washing the shaving lather brush, forgets to close the water tap while doing shaving, the man forget his cell phone at another location(in rush hours), the man forgets to close the car-windows, the man forgets office drawer keys on the dining table at his home. so wi then comnt' on '...shyn', by a oversight that tool box was left it's place, so a normal mistake infact this is not a mistake, just grip leaved on the box and hence that tool box prefered to start its own journey.

But let me tell now, if we check the exact destination through the hubble telescope to find the true destination of that tool box, earth, and from where that left the place : then it will be easy task to find out the tool box again and keep it again on the board.

There is no need to send another special mission in search of that tool box in the space (are there any diamonds/perls/valuables/locker keys/) in that tool box?

I think google search can find that tool box in "google earth".

is that a lether bag, or a cloth is mounted on the lether bag or a patch of rexin onto it or what is the exact exterior of that bag, is that a laptop bag in which the tool box equipment was kept? (this puzzle is not yet solved by you)

True story:

A few years ago, a bunch of coworkers and I went out to eat after work. I rode with one other person in her vehicle (a Jeep Grand Cherokee). We got out at the restaurant and closed the doors, at which point she says, "Oh, no! I think I just locked the keys in there!" Sure enough, the doors were locked.

She says, "Maybe the rear hatch is still unlocked." It was! Being a gentleman, I climbed into the rear hatch, over into the back seat, and reached into the front seat for the ignition. No keys. I looked around, on the seats, in the cupholders. No keys.

I said, "Uh, I don't see your keys in here anywhere."

I hear her voice from outside: "Oh, here they are. They were in my hand."

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