http://gizmodo.com/5121311/30gb-zune...re-all-at-once


....including mine. I just use it to listen to music in the car, so hopefully they'll figure out a way to fix it soon. I know some people who live with their MP3 players on all the time, and they're gonna be having a hard time with this.

I'm just afraid I'll lose some of the songs I have on it.

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There's a DIY fix posted which basically consists of opening the thing, disconnecting the battery and hard disk, then reattaching them and try to turn it one, which should reset the clock and allow it to boot again.

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Yeah, I saw that. But I wanna give MS at least a few days to fix it before I go popping the thing open.

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Zune Freeze Result of Leap Year: Microsoft

Quote:

The problem should fix itself, says Microsoft.

see:
http://blog.wired.com/gadgets/2008/1...reeze-res.html

Jim

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and the microsoft help lines were closed when it happened...


Ha Ha Ha....
that is actually a great news story!

i have to wonder what the repercussions will be...

hmmm...

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-work in progress--

In the world? Wow.

At least you'd know it wasn't your fault.

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It has been said that the day Microsoft starts making vacuum cleaners will be the day they make a product that doesn't suck.

Remember my sig: "Microsoft is over if you want it."

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Microsoft is over if you want it.

The bar has been lowered for the promotion of ATM ideas; the bar for the acceptance of ATM ideas must remain high.

Well, one of the goals of quality control is to ensure that every product of the same type is made to the same standard. So they're a success on that front, at least!

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That might have been caused by me. I spent pretty much the whole day at work yesterday trying to make heads and tails of Microsoft's (barely documented an aparently designed by cokeheads*) cryptography libraries, and by lunchtime I was loudly and vocally cursing them with all sorts of horrible fates.


* Fellow programmers, a word of advice: If you're going to do something like, oh, say, ask the user for a parameter that specifies which hashing algorithm to use (or select from any other specific list of alternatives), it's traditional to take care of this with a named enumeration. But even more importantly, if you decide to go the stupid route and use text strings instead then you should at least have enough basic human decency to provide some sort of LIST OF WHAT THE OPTIONS ARE. It's true, security is important and a major part of it is challenging people to supply a password, but it turns out that there are situations where it's an inappropriate thing to do. (Really!)

Oh goodness (_{see how I didn't swear then?}) a company I used to work for built a National login system that had security functionality in it like maybe only you would believe. I once had to debug a module that made win32 crypto api calls from managed code (C#). How can you know how to properly dispose of these objects, to prevent memory and handle leaks and such, when the documentation is as bad you say? Arrgh! Complicated software that works perfectly for a week until it goes pop...

Sometimes it's like they want you to fail. (Which is sad, because sometimes you work in an MS supplied library that's documented almost perfectly...)

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The bar has been lowered for the promotion of ATM ideas; the bar for the acceptance of ATM ideas must remain high.

Have you seen the event handling scheme in Windows Forms? They clearly want us to fail.

(not related to programming but) My friend recently bout an XBox 360. We were actually having fun playing it, when I looked at him and said "I'd get one if I had the money", followed by a "I'd buy a Microsoft product...I feel so dirty!" to which he understood and felt the same way. :-P

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If I set the budget, we'd have Ares and more. Unfortunately, I don't set the budget, and Ares is just too expensive and too far out for us to accomplish our goals within the budget we were given.

If we halt the ISS, all versions of Ares, and transport Orion and Altair aboard DIRECTv3's Jupiter family of Shuttle-Derived Launch Vehicles, we just might make it back to the Moon by 2020.

It is all futile; if you do figure out the API, Microsoft will just deprecate it as soon as your product launches. Been there, done that.

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(A paraphrase of a battlefield judgment made by Frederick the Great, King of Prussia.)

The programmer responsible for the 30-Gig Zune freeze-up was brought before Steve Ballmer for judgment, as Bill Gates has gone on to bigger and better things.

Said Steve, "You mean you forgot all about the fact that one in every four years is a leap year?"

"Yes, Mr. Ballmer, I'm sorry."

And then Steve Ballmer handed down his judgment: "This man is an idiot. He is unfit to be a programmer. Put him in Customer Support."

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The bar has been lowered for the promotion of ATM ideas; the bar for the acceptance of ATM ideas must remain high.

The culpable programmer had acid thrown in his face and was exhiled to the desert. A chimpanzee on loan from a nearby zoo was called in to replace him, and within a few hours the Zunes were in working order again.

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Do we know that this was not a conspiracy by Microsoft to convince people with older Zunes to upgrade to newer versions?

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"What you think you thought you saw you did not see." Agent J, MiB - Manhatten Bureau

Wait a sec, is this the same Zune that has been out for years without a hiccup until now?

As opposed to Mac's flaming Batteries o' Doom? Thus making the Ipod the Ford Pinto of music players? Has Microsoft topped that?

(and why can't people who program for the Mac design a decent computer game that doesn't seem aimed at the "Blue's Clues" crowd?)

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Yes, since they seem to be working now. It would be a pretty strange conspiracy that relied on people to freak out within a 24 hour period over not having a working mp3 player.

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It's a test to determine owner susceptibility... they should purchase new Zunes just to be safe.

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Yeah, I've had a Zune for about a year now. It sits in my car in freezing and sweltering temperatures, and I've dropped it more times than I'd care to remember, and it's never given me any trouble. Unlike the two Ipods I owned before it. The Zune computer program could be a little better, but it's still more stylish and less bloated than Itunes.

Still, I think it's kinda funny and weird how they all faceplanted at once like that.

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Because it'd be like putting a manual transmission in a Chrysler Town and Country. Anybody who's designing a computer game for Mac users who fall outside the Blue's Clues crowd has heinously misread the market. In the industry, we have a term of art that's used to describe computer owners who are interested in much beyond the casual games that you can play for free on any number of websites. They're called "PC users."

And he stood there, his arms outstretched, wondering what to do about his deflicted eyes. And he remembered an old bit of programming documentation, printed on whatever it is that they print it on these days, that if you ever get acid thrown in your face for some programming gaffe, that the only way you can get it fixed up is to trudge, mile after mile, to the parish of St. Alfonzo's. Fortunately there was a franchise in the desert.

At St. Alfonzo's Pancake Breakfast, where I stole the margarine ...

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