I am trying to find a book, ISBN 3-906428-27-3, which has been withdrawn, from publication.

If a book is withdrawn from publication, is it normal to delete the ISBN reference as well?

I thought ISBN numbers are unique?

I did not realize they are deleted after a book is withdrawn or is out of publication.

Who manages and controls ISBN reference numbers?

Who has the power to delete an ISBN reference numbers?

Kind Regards

Terry Giblin

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You've been to htttp://www.isbn.org ?

According to Google, the only other place this ISBN is mentioned and written in this way is a thread started by you in another forum.

There is a book with this ISBN in Google Books and some other on-line databases:
http://books.google.com/books?q=isbn%3A3906428273
But I guess it's not what are you looking for.

You can try to continue your search using the search engines listed here:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Special...ces/3906428273

It would be more easier if you had the title or the names of the author(s). I suspect that your ISBN is not the right one.

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It's an ISBN10 code, the 3 indicates German language ISBN agency, the 906428 a publisher number that can publish up to 100 titles, and the last 3 is a checksum number. There are no publishers lists available online for group 3, AFAIK.

What makes you conclude the ISBN number is "deleted"?

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From the initial 3 I see it's in German, from the hyphenation I see it's a 100 number block so a very small publisher, possibly even self published.

I think it's going to be difficult to find it unless you also have a title and author, since if it's been republished it might not be under the same ISBN.

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As written above, 3-906428-27-3 is an old 10-digit ISBN, meaning that the book is at least a few years old.

I used the online converter (10 --> 13) on http://www.german-isbn.de and got 978-3-906428-27-7 (the converter adds the 978 prefix and recalculates the checksum). If the original number had been invalid, I would have gotten an error message, but I didn't, so the ISBN is valid, which doesn't mean it's right.

However, there is no entry in the German online portal of the VLB (Verzeichnis lieferbarer Bücher = "list of available books") www.buchhandel.de, so presuming the book did exist at one time, it is now simply out of print.

The publisher would be the "international institute of management in technology - University Press" (iimt - Universität Fribourg, Boulevard de Pérolles 90, 1700 Fribourg - www.iimt.ch), which is in Switzerland.

The Swiss list on www.swissbooks.ch turns up a blank too.

If the book had been published at one time, the ISBN should turn up on on-line library lists, but it doesn't. It's also not in the publisher's back list (http://www.iimt.ch/uploads/media/catalog.pdf).

Maybe it was a POD book that was printed before the Swiss national library started puting its new acquiries online.

A quick search in the Swiss national library online catalogue drew a blank too, but I didn't try very hard (http://www.nb.admin.ch/slb/dienstlei...x.html?lang=de)

Try contacting the publisher.

[edit] Oops, following the link for google books given by daggerstab above, we see that the book is:
André van Tuinen, Release management in the telecom industry: methods, instruments, critical success factors, Series on management in telecommunications. IIMT University Press, 2003

(I forgot to search for 3-906428-27-3 without the dashes.)

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Bei der Welt ist gar kein Rat, und im Herzen steh'n die Schmerzen meiner Missetat, weil der Knecht den Herrn verleugnet hat.

Nice sleuthing, kleindoofy!

Here in Spain, back when I was in publishing and retailing, we had quite a number of books show up with bad ISBN numbers. It appeared to be dart-board decision-making at work. Maybe a rigid coding system didn't appeal to some (wacky) notions of freedom of speech?

Had to reprogram our barcode system for the retailers and use new algorithms. Not fun, inefficient; bad codes were a pet peeve of mine back then. Cost big bucks, since the routine I made on a PC didn't work on the mini (OS version refused to output a null char to the printer needed for the graphics), so we had to buy into deliciously expensive-per-label dedicated printers. /rant

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Not necessarily in German, it just means the publisher is in that group. See the german-isbn.org FAQ.

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Quick addition:

The book is the fourth volume in the series quoted above (Series on management in telecommunications). which has the subtitle Executive MBA and executive diploma papers

It's a papberback and originally cost CHF 45.--

There is one copy available at the Swiss national library:
shelfmark: N 262082 in the "NB/Magazin Ost."

So, now all you have to do is go to Berne in Switzerland. Have fun, it's a lovely city.

Here's some information on the library: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swiss_National_Library

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Ach, mein Sinn, wo willst du endlich hin, wo soll ich mich erquicken? Bleib' ich hier, oder wünsch' ich mir Berg und Hügel auf den Rücken?
Bei der Welt ist gar kein Rat, und im Herzen steh'n die Schmerzen meiner Missetat, weil der Knecht den Herrn verleugnet hat.

That was daggerstab!

The book is listed as available in the IIMT catalog

Yup. And I refered to him in my edit.

Yes, I see it now too, but strangely with the ISBN 3-906428-42-7, not 3-906428-27-3.

Probably some kind of feint by the CIA or the No Such Agency.

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Ach, mein Sinn, wo willst du endlich hin, wo soll ich mich erquicken? Bleib' ich hier, oder wünsch' ich mir Berg und Hügel auf den Rücken?
Bei der Welt ist gar kein Rat, und im Herzen steh'n die Schmerzen meiner Missetat, weil der Knecht den Herrn verleugnet hat.

Sorry. Yes, that's how I knew, you gave appropriate credit.Interesting. What does that isbn code reveal?
My money's on the DIA.

That's just plain wrong programming from their side.

The "-7" check digit relates to the ISBN-13 version of the number so it should have been written as 978-3-906428-42-7

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No, it's a different ISBN so a different checksum. I almost fell for that one too, since indeed 7 is the checksum for the ISBN13 version of Terry's number Online calculator.

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"Your right to hold an opinion is not being contested. Your expectation that it be taken seriously is." -- Jason Thompson
Meet the OOONG TOE.

-42- vs. -27- for the book.

Ok, looks like they republished it under a new ISBN.

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‘To those who regard “crime fiction” as some sacred icon which must follow a rigid formula, I will always be the man who writes 18-syllable haiku.’Trying to make sense of computers, The Error Log.

3-906428-42-7 is not in the Swiss national library, nor available via VLB, but it is a valid ISBN. The 13-digit number is 978-3-906428-42-0.

I'm guessing that the publisher made a booboo in the catalogue.

iimt only has 29 titles available in the VLB listing.

My guess is that they produce mini printings which fulfill certain legal (or other) requirements, e.g. for patent submission, submit the mandatory copies (university, national library, etc.), keep a few for selling, and give the rest to the author. That's not atypical for MBA theses or "throw away" dissertations.

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Ach, mein Sinn, wo willst du endlich hin, wo soll ich mich erquicken? Bleib' ich hier, oder wünsch' ich mir Berg und Hügel auf den Rücken?
Bei der Welt ist gar kein Rat, und im Herzen steh'n die Schmerzen meiner Missetat, weil der Knecht den Herrn verleugnet hat.

Well, we're assuming it is. We probably should find out from the OP whether it is or isn't.

Something tell's me it's not.

Judging from the title, Young's Double Split Experiment is not likely to be mentioned in the book, and I believe that is what the OP is looking for.

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Ach, mein Sinn, wo willst du endlich hin, wo soll ich mich erquicken? Bleib' ich hier, oder wünsch' ich mir Berg und Hügel auf den Rücken?
Bei der Welt ist gar kein Rat, und im Herzen steh'n die Schmerzen meiner Missetat, weil der Knecht den Herrn verleugnet hat.

Actually, I posted just before the edit, but was lauding the process, anywho...

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Terry, a little response would be nice, after all the effort people went through to get you your information.. What's the source for your ISBN number, what made you conclude it was "deleted", and what's special about the publication? Any more information on it, like author, date, etc? Thanks for the challenge btw, it was nice to learn some more about how the ISBN system works.

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"Your right to hold an opinion is not being contested. Your expectation that it be taken seriously is." -- Jason Thompson
Meet the OOONG TOE.

HAL 9000

Wake up HAL, you're dreaming again.

All open source operating systems, including mac, where designed to work in 2000, I was there.

http://www.unix.org/images/unix_plate.jpg

They wrote a book about it, ISBN.......

Let there be light.

Kind Regards

Terry Giblin

Zero evidence.

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You or me?

Kind Regards

Terry Giblin

Howzabout a title and author?

Fred

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You're welcome, glad we could help.

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Ach, mein Sinn, wo willst du endlich hin, wo soll ich mich erquicken? Bleib' ich hier, oder wünsch' ich mir Berg und Hügel auf den Rücken?
Bei der Welt ist gar kein Rat, und im Herzen steh'n die Schmerzen meiner Missetat, weil der Knecht den Herrn verleugnet hat.

...and what book would that be?You, so far.

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I was one of the original architects, that designed the process, to produced the report and hence the book.

welcome to the matrix

Let there be light.

Kind Regards

Terry Giblin

"Client"?---are you recruiting?
Do these "copies" have a title and author[s]?No help.

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Oh, it's a 07:21 YouTube (presumable) excerpt from the movie.
Now you're a movie star

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Of what?

What process?

What report?

What book? Is it Release management in the telecom industry: methods, instruments, critical success factors? That is, the one that matched the ISBN you gave.

Please give us details. References to movies and an OS developed in the '60s do nothing to clarify whatever claim you think you're making.

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Dear Van Rijn,

Did I say Thank you for pointing out my mistake, '60s, I am not that old.......

I should have said "I was trained by the original architects".

The Sinclair ZX80 was my first computer.

I have been breaking and fixing them, ever since.

Let there be light.

Kind Regards

Terry Giblin