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Well over a decade? First flight was already in 1969, first trans-atlantic in 1971. Flights continued until 2003 with 1 fatal accident. Otherwise only some incidents (worst must have been loss of half the vertical tail, though without consequences). Excellent safety record. But, as stated, with a dangerous failure mode nonetheless.
But it's a a very small fleet. If you calculate the safety record on a per-flight-hour basis, I think you'll find it's much worse than any of the conventional airliners from Boeing or Airbus.
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I believe that the market for potential Concorde replacements has been found (assuming the costs can be brought to close to current airfare prices).
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Richard Job, a manager for Flight Centre in Vancouver, spoke to airline executives who have taken to flying Vancouver-London same-day return. “That's something new to them in the last six to 12 months,” Job says.

While this is an extreme practice – that's 20 hours of flying time – Job says Toronto-London day trips are no longer uncommon among travel professionals. He has taken to regularly flying to L.A. and back the same day. “I'd rather get home to my family than stay in Los Angeles,” he says.

These travel-business insiders are on the leading edge of a trend that is being noticed throughout the industry. While there has always been a good number of travellers landing in Canada's major cities in the morning and leaving in the evening, frequent fliers are going to greater lengths to make it home without staying overnight.
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But it's a a very small fleet. If you calculate the safety record on a per-flight-hour basis, I think you'll find it's much worse than any of the conventional airliners from Boeing or Airbus.
That's possible, I haven't done the maths.
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That's possible, I haven't done the maths.
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http://www.consumerwarningnetwork.co...re-the-safest/

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Take the Concorde SST, the supersonic airline in operation from 1976 to 2003. It only had one fatal accident in its entire history, but because it flew less than 100,000 flights total, its fatal events per million flights is 11.36, the highest of any aircraft model.
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That would be the highest of any commercial airliner model. Still, being more or less the first of its type (with some military legacy of course), it ain't really bad.

I can name some military craft and especially X craft with a slightly worse history.
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Isn't the common metric accidents/fatalities per passenger mile rather than per flight?
And statistics based on a sample space of one, meaningless?
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That's possible, I haven't done the maths.
There are no "maths" to be done.

It's "I haven't done the math."
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Isn't the common metric accidents/fatalities per passenger mile rather than per flight?
In terrestrial transportation it is common to rate accidents per mile [km]. In aviation, data may be arranged in different ways [hours flown, passenger miles completed, trips made, etc].
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In terrestrial transportation it is common to rate accidents per mile [km]. In aviation, data may be arranged in different ways [hours flown, passenger miles completed, trips made, etc].
Doesn't it all depend on the context of what you're talking about.
Airplane fatigue based on take-offs.
Engines based on hours.
Passenger safety based on passenger miles.
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Well, since takeoff and landing are by far the most dangerous parts of flight, per flight is a fairly logical way to arrange safety data. A plane used for many short range flights could be just as safe, but its numbers for crashes per mile might be higher.
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There are no "maths" to be done.

It's "I haven't done the math."
There is more to the world than North America. I for one happen to live closer to Great Britain than to North America, for example.

In the UK, maths is the usual abbreviation for mathematics. The reasoning there is that mathematics is a plural, hence so is the abbreviation.

I usually use British English, hence in my case indeed I hadn't done the maths.
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