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Old 10-October-2003, 06:26 PM
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My question is,, I have heard the Universe might be definte instead of indifinite. Example like a soccer ball shape. If this is the case, what is beyond that? There has to be something beyond the universe itself? Any idea?
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Old 10-October-2003, 06:42 PM
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Maybe there are an infinite number of other universa together with ours, in a multiverse. Or, maybe this universe is an especially cooled down and "condensed" area in some infinite area. Maybe our universe is a fourdimensional soccerball in a fivedimensional space. But, then again, our universe may be all that exist, all that ever was or ever will be. In other words, I'm not sure if anyone really knows.
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Old 10-October-2003, 07:17 PM
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Old 11-October-2003, 05:16 PM
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what is beyond that? There has to be something beyond the universe itself? Any idea?
Water; lots of it, as in an endless abyss.
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Old 12-October-2003, 04:00 PM
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A brick wall!!

My opinion and very humble at that, is our universe is not alone, a few hundred years ago we did not even know the earth was round, our minds right now cannot fathom the shape or size or how many dimensions the universes may have.
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Old 03-November-2003, 08:47 PM
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ok.. now.. picture space. WHATS UNDER SPACE? i cant explain it lol :huh:
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Old 03-November-2003, 09:12 PM
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I believe that the universe is finite in size and if you were to set off in a space ship you would eventually come back to where you started. I don't know if I belive it or not but the idea of other universes then this one has crossed my mind more then once and its a hard idea to grasp. But lets just say this is the only universe, then there would be nothing beyond it. It's hard to say whats in the dark tho because you can not see. I am also sure there are thousands of opinons on what could be byond the universe and non can really said to be wrong, I would just use your imagination and try to come up with you own idea on whats beyond it, for its as acurate as the next person
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Old 05-November-2003, 03:10 AM
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Menikmati has a good point in that we should be using our imaginations more...

When I was about 7 my brother told me that the universe was inifinite, that it went on and on forever - a bit like my posts

I used to lie awake trying to think about what would happen if there was no universe and it is - quite literally - mind boggling. You have to start small... you can imagine that if there was no Earth, then we'd simply be somewhere else in the universe. It's kind of a default reaction from your brain... it can't accept that there is no Earth, that what you see and hear around you doesn't exist, so it tells you that instead of the Earth, we'd simply be on another planet.

But what if there weren't any other planets?

After a little while of staring at the ceiling, it *is* possible to grasp the concept of non-existence LOL (I'm beginning to think I should study Zen LOL)

I never considered what was *outside* the universe though... or maybe my brain was just too tired...
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Old 05-November-2003, 06:45 AM
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Menikmati: "I believe that the universe is finite in size and if you were to set off in a space ship you would eventually come back to where you started."
According to relativity, space-time is four dimensional. If the universe was a finite "sphere" shape, then it would be in four dimensions, so travelling in a direction in 3 dimensions would not lead you back where you started. It's a difficult concept to get your head around.
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Old 05-November-2003, 10:24 AM
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Absolutly totally nothing. It could be, difficult to get your head around, but once you get onto the 'universe' scale everything takes a lot of work to get your head around.

But then we could have an infinite space, or maybe there is nothing outside the universe, even though we are in a finite universe. Or maybe we are just in a black hole in another universe.

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According to relativity, space-time is four dimensional. If the universe was a finite "sphere" shape, then it would be in four dimensions, so travelling in a direction in 3 dimensions would not lead you back where you started. It's a difficult concept to get your head around.
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You could get back to the same place in space, but not in time. Time would have moved on, so yes you are right (technically).
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Old 07-November-2003, 03:16 AM
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Someday we may encounter what appears to be a solid wall in Space. Eventually we might conclude that this was made of absolutely nothing. There would not only be nothing on the other side of the apparent wall, but the wall would simply mark the end of Space itself. The wall would be nothing more and nothing less than simply the absence of any place further to go. It is merely an unfounded mental habit to assume that there is always another side to every wall. This habit is based on our limited experience and may have little basis in reality.
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Old 07-November-2003, 05:29 PM
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What the universe is is everything we see and dont see. What we s3ee and know is but a small percentage of everything. We are incapable of even concieving what the universe consists of precisly because we are unable to comprehend what we are looking at as a whole object. In short the "UNIVERSE" as we know it is only a piece of some object that is unseeable from this prospective.
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Old 08-November-2003, 06:21 AM
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The universe is made up of space and time. They are a part of the universe. Beyond the universe, space-time ends. There is no space, no time. So, if we wanted to go outside the universe, we wouldn't be able to, as there is nothing outside it. The u8niverse is everything there is.
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Old 08-November-2003, 06:37 AM
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rahuldandekar this leaves the question (which you posted in another topic in the last 15 minutes), of why/how the universe came into existence in the first place. If there are no outside influences, doesn't it seem a little...well...strange!
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Old 08-November-2003, 07:10 AM
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What if outside the universe it were not a nothingness as some think. Maybe it it made up of only energy, or only time. What would it be like?
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Old 08-November-2003, 10:19 AM
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Is it possible to imagine a universe with no origin, yet a finite age?
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Old 26-November-2003, 11:31 PM
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Heaven?

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Old 28-November-2003, 10:59 AM
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Maybe there are baby universes beyond the universe, each time there is a supernova, a black hole is born and matter is sucked into it. What if on the other side of the black hole another mini universe is expanding just like ours did 12-15 billion years ago.
Maybe its true but who knows, its just another theori
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Old 29-November-2003, 07:12 PM
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After reading all replys I was thinking and agree that beyond the universe is NOTHING, no time, no space, just nothing! but I feel strange about that all of universe! Then i've thinked some new questions;

Beyond the universe is nothing, no time no light etcetera right?,
Also we have a Black holes in our universe. they've theory that a black hole "suck" all materials, light, time everything! So what's beyond the black holes?
I think that the answer is probaly same as the question of what's beyond the universe!
if beyond the universe've no time, no space etcetera then this doesn't work as a black hole?So maybe the universe is not expanding to be bigger as a balloon but to be smaller as a shrinking balloon?

There's a theory of Big bangs too; it started as very little like a pencilpoint, after billions years it's now billionXbillionXbillion lightyears big what we thanks that we are lifing.
So what was around it a beginning of Big bang as a pencilpoint?, This question is same as the question of what's beyond the universe too I think.
Maybe there were more pencilpoints/big bangs too?, Then our BIG universe will be very small for the human thinking! It's just like one football between millions footballs lol.

so what is beyond beyond beyond all, I've a lot questions in my head so my head goes as to blow up

maybe this all is not true, I'm not so cleve as you all but the science never is certain.
Dump people say they does know everything, but manner people don't.

Maybe is the theory's of a start of our Universe not true.

Maybe beyond the universe is just still universe. Nothing is beyond!


Find a TRUE answer what is beyond universe will be a biggest invention of the mankind and all intelligent lifes!It's like finding a answer of god that gave our the life.
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Old 03-December-2003, 03:16 AM
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Actually, our universe , is one of those glass balls sitting on a shelf. When all the stars settle to the bottom, someone comes along and gives it a good shake.
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Old 03-December-2003, 03:21 AM
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Our universe is a "Cell", and those galaxies are the tiny little thing that live inside cell....
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Old 06-December-2003, 11:36 PM
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This is a question that i have always had in my head. There has to be something beoned space i feel. The universe follows the same rales as we do everyday and why wouldn't it?

How i see it is, your looking at a pc screen, that screen is in a room, that room is in a building, the building is on the planit, the planit is in the solur system, the solur sytem is in the galaxy and the galaxy is in the universe and so on

So why would it stop there?? there must be something beond what we know at this point, we just don't know how to see it yet.

Just hope we don't end up blowing our selfs up before we find out! :blink:

The thing that i can't start to get my head round is, i'm sure there is somthing beoned the universe, and there is something beoned that and so on, layer after layer like the pc screen in the room. But for that layer after layer to happen where is it all???

Think of it like an onion (bear with me ) you and the pc screen is at the center of the onion and the layers over it are the planit and the universe and so on....... where is the onion to begin with? where is it sitting so it can excist?

Its completely mind blowing trying to make sence of where and why we are.... i suppose thats why we have jobs, watch tv and play video games so don't have too fine with me
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Old 10-December-2003, 05:27 PM
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