Chatroom
 

If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. You may have to register before you can post: click the register link above to proceed. To start viewing messages, select the forum that you want to visit from the selection below.

Go Back   Bad Astronomy and Universe Today Forum > General > Questions and Answers
Register FAQ Members List Calendar Mark Forums Read

   

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
  #1 (permalink)  
Old 09-August-2006, 05:26 AM
Jens's Avatar
Jens Jens is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Tokyo
Posts: 1,982
Default Question about lens measurements

I'm trying to find a term that's used to measure a lens. Basically, it's the total height of the lens if you place it on the ground. So if I put the lens flat on a table, how height would it reach into the air? It's not the same as thickness, because you could have a very thin lens that is highly curved. I think it has something to do with "sagittal height", but that seems slightly different.
__________________
As above, so below
Reply With Quote
  #2 (permalink)  
Old 09-August-2006, 10:51 AM
max8166's Avatar
max8166 max8166 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Southampton, England
Posts: 230
Default

Focal Ratio.
Focal ratio, or f number, is the focal length of a lens, or mirror, divided by its diameter. A focal ratio of 8 would be written as f/8.

An f/8 telescope is "slower" than an f/4. Fast telescopes give wider, brighter images with a given eyepiece than slower ones. In general, the slower the telescope, the more forgiving it is of defects in the objective / mirror and eyepiece.
From: http://www.r-clarke.org.uk/telescope_glossary1.htm

See Also : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/F-number
Reply With Quote
  #3 (permalink)  
Old 10-August-2006, 02:28 AM
Jens's Avatar
Jens Jens is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Tokyo
Posts: 1,982
Default

Thanks, but I don't think that's actually what I'm looking for. I'm not looking for something to do with the focal point or anything like that, just the physical dimension that basically corresponds to the diameter, but in the other direction. So in other words, if you were to put the lens in a box, the length and width of the box would be the diameter of the box; how tall would the box have to be? It may be that the word I'm looking for is simply "height".

If it helps, the manufacturer (a Japanese company) uses ET for "edge thickness," CT for "central thickness," and the acronym "DH" for this measurement. I guess it would be something like "drop height"?

Edited to add part about acronym.
__________________
As above, so below
Reply With Quote
  #4 (permalink)  
Old 10-August-2006, 04:23 AM
George's Avatar
George George is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: San Antonio, Tx.
Posts: 7,424
Default

Wouldn't it just be the center thickness, with the apparent exception of negative power lenses (whatever that is)?
__________________
Lighten up! This is a stellar board! Author: duh.

"The Sun, with all the planets revolving around it, and depending on it, can still ripen a bunch of grapes as though it had nothing else in the universe to do..." Author: Galileo supposedly.
Reply With Quote
  #5 (permalink)  
Old 10-August-2006, 04:39 AM
Jens's Avatar
Jens Jens is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Tokyo
Posts: 1,982
Default

No, because the thickness is the actual thickness of the lens itself. If I can give you an analogy, suppose you have a frisbee sitting on the ground. The center thickness would be the thickness of the plastic at the center of the frisbee. But I'm not looking for that. I'm looking for the thickness of the plastic plus the air that's under it (because of the rim).
__________________
As above, so below
Reply With Quote
  #6 (permalink)  
Old 10-August-2006, 05:00 AM
LucasVB's Avatar
LucasVB LucasVB is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Uberlāndia, Brazil
Posts: 134
Default

He means this:


No idea if there's a specific name for lenses or anything, but "saggital height" is the name for the height of the "cut" of a circle.
__________________
"I am accustomed, as a professional mathematician,
to living in a sort of vacuum, surrounded by people who declare
with an odd sort of pride that they are mathematically illiterate."
— David Mumford
Reply With Quote
  #7 (permalink)  
Old 10-August-2006, 07:31 PM
George's Avatar
George George is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: San Antonio, Tx.
Posts: 7,424
Default

Is that a "negative power lens"?
__________________
Lighten up! This is a stellar board! Author: duh.

"The Sun, with all the planets revolving around it, and depending on it, can still ripen a bunch of grapes as though it had nothing else in the universe to do..." Author: Galileo supposedly.
Reply With Quote
  #8 (permalink)  
Old 11-August-2006, 02:17 AM
Jens's Avatar
Jens Jens is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Tokyo
Posts: 1,982
Default

Lucas,

Thanks a lot for the diagram. It's exactly what I mean. The value of d.
__________________
As above, so below
Reply With Quote
Reply


Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On



All times are GMT. The time now is 06:01 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.3
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
LinkBacks Enabled by vBSEO 3.0.0
©  2006 Bad Astronomy and Universe Today