I know everyone's probably tired of people asking about this, but what about all this 2012 stuff? Does anyone think it will happen? I'm reading a book called "The Bible Code". It shows all the codes of events that were predicted in the Bible by coding. It says it will happen, but it will crumble to pieces. It says "I" will crumble it to pieces. Is this just a bunch of crap, or should I prepare just in case?

Nothing's going to happen. It is just a bunch of rotten peanut butter.

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Ok, thanks. I was kinda upset and scared when I first found out. And what about NASA? They kinda act like they're trying to hide stuff. I was on their website and was looking around and it shows pictures of Nibiru or "Planet X" and shows where they said they discovered it in 1980-something. Then I went to the ask an Astrobiologist. The scientist that was answering questions about it keeps saying that they didn't discover it and they were awfully rude. I know they were probably tired of hearing stuff about it, but they didn't have to be rude. What do you think about this?

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It's not that they are trying to hide stuff, it's just that they are tired of hearing these things. Just so you know, NASA does not have a monopoly on observations of space, and the folks talking about Nibiru have been predicting its arrival for a while now, and every time that the date comes and goes, the select a new near future date.

We have some lengthy discussions of this topic in the Conspiracy Theory section of this forum. Ask there, for pointers to some thorough debunking of this idea.

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There's no scientific evidence for a 2012 cataclysm. Yes, we've had a lot of people ask about this, and I expect one of the folks here (01101001) will post a list to previous threads soon enough.

I sure don't.

We don't get much into religious discussion on BAUT (see the board rules, if you haven't already), but you might be interested in these links on that subject:

http://www.csicop.org/si/9711/bible-code.html

http://www.csicop.org/si/9803/bible-code.html

Bible codes are a form of numerology. It's pretty easy for someone to come up with ways to find what they want to see.

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Disclaimer: Avatar is not an official NASA image and does not imply any specific interplanetary or interstellar capability.

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How strange! What does that mean?

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As someone with many phobias, I'm always glad to help free somebody from fear.
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People have been trying to make money from "Nibiru" scams since at least 2003, so I wouldn't be surprised if he was tired of answering questions about it. Maybe he was also just having a bad day. You know, one of those days when you spill your lunch all over your new pants?
Trying to make money off of people's fears of the end of the world is something a lot of people do, but that doesn't change the fact that I personally think it's one of the most downright morally disgusting things humans are capable of.
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I seriously doubt you found a picture of Nibiru on a NASA webpage. More likely you saw it elsewhere and mis-remembered. If you tried to insist to an astrobiologist that NASA had found such a planet, its not surprising that they may have been dismissive. Just one big misunderstanding. Sort of like any episode of "Three's Company"

Here is a screenshot from their page.
http://i203.photobucket.com/albums/a...NUARY-08-2.jpg

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Probably God is going to stop it.

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I made that long post, and six people had posted by the time I clicked "Submit"...

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Who is the "I" in the text I quoted? You?

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No not me. Notice I was quoted. That was in the Bible Code. So God is supposed to stop it considering usually when it says something like "I" or Him means God Himself.

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Oh, I see. Thanks for explaining.
I hadn't realised that this 2012 prophecy came from the Bible Code book!

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I went to that site. Here is a link with the search term, "Nibiru":

http://nai.arc.nasa.gov/astrobio/ast...x=0&submit.y=0

I read all 13 questions and David Morrison's responses. They were good information, and you would get similar responses here. Regarding NASA websites and Nibiru, that is specifically discussed:

There are other answers that point out that Eris in no way matches the fictional Nibiru. I'm not sure I would say the responses are rude, but it is clear he's frustrated with the repeated questions. See this post:

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It didn't come from it, but it is stated that it is predicted in the Bible that it's supposed to happen and such. The Bible Code is just explaining all the things that are encoded in the Bible. They are very interesting.

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This is the one where he is being rude, talking about "Thanks for a good laugh"

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I understand that you said nibiru is a hoax but why on this website http://www.detailshere.com/niburu.htm they have live picture of nibiru to the right of the sunrise can you answer that?

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The website you sent me is pretty funny. For example, the statement that the Earth's axis had tilted and the Sun had shifted from its correct place in the sky; anyone with eyes can see this is not true. Or the comment about building observatories at the south pole to observe Nibiru. The is no configuration possible that could be seen only from the south pole and not from the whole southern hemisphere. And they ask why no observatories have been built near the north pole. The last time I looked, the north pole was in the middle of the Arctic Sea, not exactly the sort of place to build a telescope. I can't believe that anyone would take this seriously. But you asked specifically about the pictures of sunset (not sunrise; look at the times of the frames). The bright point just off the Sun's disk looks to me like lens flare, which is common when pointing a camera directly at the Sun. The same lens flare makes the disk of the Sun seem to extend below the horizon in these pictures. In any case it doesn't take a rocket scientist to be sure this is not the image of a planet. The apparent surface brightness of the image is similar to that of the Sun, which would require (if it were a real object) that it be a very nearby self-luminous star not a planet. Anyway, thanks for a good laugh.

David Morrison
NAI Senior Scientist
13 March 2008

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Let's see... A list of some 2012-related topics that have appeared in BAUT Forum... Yeah, got it right here...

2003 no, 2012 si
2012
End of Mayan Calendar
Pole shift / Planetary alignment 2012?
2012 alignment question
about the Mayan 2012 item
2012 Debunking?
Possible asteroid impact in 2012?
2012 asteroid?
We don't have to worry about 2012!
More on 2012 from India Daily
2012 Completion of conspiracy?
Here's what's REALLY going to happen in 2012...
crop circles, Planet X and 2012
Planet X, crop circles and 2012 cataclysma
According to the Mayans, what will happen on 23rd Dec. 2012?
More 2012 Nonsense
NEO 2012?
Dangerous NEO in 2012?
Christmas 2012
2012 mayan calender end of world
Regarding the supposed polar shift/new ice age in 2012
New 2012 threat?
2012 look at this thing on the sun
Russian Expert Predicts Global Cooling from 2012
Pole shift idea origins
Dec 20 2012
2012 Stuff
Horizon Project-New End of World Scare?
Date: December 21st 2012
Earth passing thru Galactic center in 2012 - didn't that already happen?
2012: What do you think well happen (if anything)
So what will we see in 2012?
Galactic Tsunami?
Plane of the ecliptic of the galaxy?
Earth's Magnetic Field & 2012
2012?
Any truth to this?
How can the sun be aligned with Galactic centre?
the whole 2012 poles flip nonsense
Planet X Official Advertisement
What year are we in
Quick question about the sun
Galactic Alignment
Books of 2012! -
2007 = 2012
Return of Planet X By Rand
Don Alejandro - Mayan Elder.
Toutatis 4179: 2012?
Galactic Alignment in 2012 ?
Solar Storms
A real prediction!
NIBURU - Brown Dwarf, The DESTROYER
2012 Galactic Alignment
Not 2012 again! But I cant help it~
New evidence for 2012 TEOTWAWKI!!!
this may be a silly quest