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My family and I went camping this weekend, and Saturday night presented clear weather and an excellent opportunity for some star gazing (especially since we were far away from the light pollution from our city). About 10 of us went and spent about an hour lying on our backs looking up at the sky.
We spotted a couple of shooting stars, which is always fascinating, but the highlight was spotting three satellites. Two of them followed pretty much the exact same path through the sky about a half hour apart. Then shortly later we saw another one traveling in the same path, but in the exact opposite direction. My question is this - do we launch satellites in multiple directions, such that the above makes sense? I don't yet have very strong skills with regards to identifying stars and orientation, though I do know the path the satellites took with respect to Ursa Major. This was bugging me all weekend, because I had thought that we launch most of our satellites in the same direction to take advantage of the earth's rotation. Am I wrong here? It wouldn't be the first time for sure. |
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A previous BAUT discussion of retrograde satellites
A wikipedia article on them You can go to heavens-above.com/, input your location, and see what was passing overhead at the time you were looking.
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kpesanka,
There are two broad categories of Earth orbits: Those launched eastward, mainly to take advantage of the speed of Earth's rotation to slightly reduce the amount of energy needed to get into orbit (or increase the payload), and those launched into polar orbits, mainly to be able to look straight down on any point on the Earth. US orbital launches to the east are from Cape Canaveral in Florida; US launches into polar orbit are from Vandenberg AFB near Santa Barbara in California. Launches from Vandenberg are toward the south or southwest. The exact direction of any launch depends on the orbit desired, the range of directions allowed at any particular launch site, and the latitude of the launch site. Because Russian launch sites are at relatively high latitudes, the International Space Station had to be put into a relatively high-inclination orbit in order for Russian spacecraft to reach it. That means the US Space Shuttle cannot carry as much payload to the ISS as it would be able to do if the ISS were in an orbit with the same inclination as the latitude of the Cape Canaveral launch site. The Shuttle has to launch to the northeast instead of straight east. Satellites in polar orbits go from north to south and from south to north, and the Earth is always rotating underneath them from west to east... A very small number of small satellites have been put into east-to-west orbits by Israel, because that is the only direction they can launch in without flying over other nations during the boost phase. The Israel space launch site is at Palmachim AFB on the Mediterranian coast just south of Tel Aviv. -- Jeff, in Minneapolis
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NEOWatcher,
Many polar satellites orbit slightly "backwards", with inclinations of something like 103 degrees or thereabouts, in order to orbit over the Earth with a nearly constant angle of sunlight on the ground track. Each succeeding orbit is farther to the west by the amount needed to keep the satellite orbiting over the noontime part of the Earth, or whatever time of day is desired. Edit to add: This is called a Sun-synchronous orbit. -- Jeff, in Minneapolis
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Thanks guys!
I checked with heavens-above.com and based on the time we saw the satellites, they were most likely cosmos rockets (the timing is right such that one was going the opposite direction in a polar orbit). Glad I'm not going nuts! |
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But; I was more pondering about whether a 90 degree inclination would be visibly skewed. A quick napkin math tells me a 200mile altitude object visibly in the sky for about 10 minutes, visibly travels about 400 miles, and at my latitude had moved around 125 miles in that time. So; it could look like a retrograde satellite, No?
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