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Scientist: Planet going back to dinosaur Era

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NORWICH, England (Reuters) -- Global warming over the coming
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the dinosaur and lead to the extinction of up to half of all species, a
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Well... I am certainly glad to see that sensationalism and scare tactics have been avoided here...

Or is it time to break out the end of the world as we know it song again??
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What I'd like to know is how humanity would adapt to global temperatures being what they were back in the age of dinosaurs. That's the real issue here.

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Quoted from that link;
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NORWICH, England (Reuters) -- Global warming over the coming century could mean a return of temperatures last seen in the age of the dinosaur and lead to the extinction of up to half of all species, a scientist said on Thursday.

Not only will carbon dioxide levels be at the highest levels for 24 million years, but global average temperatures will be higher than for up to 10 million years, said Chris Thomas of the University of York.
University of York eh?
A couple of inconsistencies here;
24 million years ago was the end of the Oligocene epoch while ten million years was during the Miocene epoch; no dinosaurs around in either time period (unless you count birds).
But probably just sloppy journalism, I expect
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Quoted from that link;
A couple of inconsistencies here;
24 million years ago was the end of the Oligocene epoch while ten million years was during the Miocene epoch; no dinosaurs around in either time period
But probably just sloppy journalism, I expect
But you're not meant to know that! No reason to let facts get in the way of sensationalism!
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But you're not meant to know that! No reason to let facts get in the way of sensationalism!
Yeah... what kind of journalist are you... we wanna sell news papers!!
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Sheeze, heaven's forbid you actually want them to publish something that comes close to real science, next you're going to start demanding that movie spaceships are silent in space and bullets don't create showers of sparks and blow up car fuel tanks.
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Maybe if you shot flint bullets at a steel wall they'd make sparks?
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Maybe if you shot flint bullets at a steel wall they'd make sparks?

Quick ring the Mythbusters, we'll get them test it out.
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Maybe if you shot flint bullets at a steel wall they'd make sparks?

Quick ring the Mythbusters, we'll get them test it out.
If you shoot "strike anywhere" wooden matches out of a pellet gun, the explode on a direct hit and burst into flames on a glancing hit.

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Captain Spaulding: Well, art is art, isn't it? Still, on the other hand, water is water. And east is east and west is west, and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce, they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. Now, uh... Now you tell me what you know.
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Last night I shot a Tyranosaur in my pajamas. How he got into my pajamas I'll never know.
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Captain Spaulding: Well, art is art, isn't it? Still, on the other hand, water is water. And east is east and west is west, and if you take cranberries and stew them like applesauce, they taste much more like prunes than rhubarb does. Now, uh... Now you tell me what you know.
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Too many quotes in that last one, it is still screwed up.

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If you shoot "strike anywhere" wooden matches out of a pellet gun, the explode on a direct hit and burst into flames on a glancing hit.

Best to not ask...
I would imagine so!!
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Just don't fire them into the acoustic ceiling tiles! D'oh!

(Somebody got a glass of water? Anybody?)
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Just don't fire them into the acoustic ceiling tiles! D'oh!

(Somebody got a glass of water? Anybody?)
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And if anything just grazes one of the lights in a bank of floodlights illuminating an athletic event, they all explode!


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And if anything just grazes one of the lights in a bank of floodlights illuminating an athletic event, they all explode!


To be fair, when metal hallide lights fail, they really do so in spectacular fashion. They're jokingly referred to as "nonpassive failures". Nonpassive being a sarcastic understatement.
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To be fair, when metal hallide lights fail, they really do so in spectacular fashion. They're jokingly referred to as "nonpassive failures". Nonpassive being a sarcastic understatement.
That's like referring to a 10 megaton hydrogen bomb as a "device" which produces a "fusion reaction".

Re the metal halide lamps, one would hope that the essential reflector assembly would include a sealed cover, which would prevent a chain reaction. Darn bright light once up to temperature and pressure.

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And if anything just grazes one of the lights in a bank of floodlights illuminating an athletic event, they all explode!
I wish I knew that about 6 or 7 years ago.
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That's like referring to a 10 megaton hydrogen bomb as a "device" which produces a "fusion reaction".

Re the metal halide lamps, one would hope that the essential reflector assembly would include a sealed cover, which would prevent a chain reaction. Darn bright light once up to temperature and pressure.

In the application for which I specify them, warehouses and sport complexes, they're rarely closer than 20 feet from each other. With the right reflector, a 400 watt lamp will kick out a good 50 footcandles in its footprint. In cases where we have either sport complexes or high stack warehouses, they do come with tight wire screens to prevent non-passive triggered failures.

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